What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by ZoeSnack » Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:22 pm

Better automatic add inclusions to make generating executables go without any problems. This truly should be an automatic process!

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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by okk » Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:10 pm

I am using livecode to create interfaces for video-installations in a museum context. The single most important thing for me would be to be able (again) to place controls on top of a player object without compromising playback speed and framerate. My second biggest wish would be to be able to place controls on top of the map widget. And of course it would be nice if there would be a larger developer community that could contribute to LC. Thank you! Oliver

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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by richmond62 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:51 pm

a larger developer community
Hang on a moment until I stop laughing.
that could contribute to LC
A large proportion do.

I think you may be apportioning blame in the wrong place.

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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by okk » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:08 am

@richmond62 Sorry, I don't understand your comment. Irony is not my strength. My point was to say that I would hope more people would discover livecode and would actively contribute to its development, either in the forums, building extensions, improving the documentation an so on. What's wrong with that? Best. Oliver

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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by richmond62 » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:06 am

What's wrong with that?
Nothing whatsoever. 8)

But your initial post suggested that there was not already a sizeable number of end-users
who contributed to LC.

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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by bodah » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:48 am

In no particular order..

library sharing promoted as a first class feature in the form of script ony stacks, either hosted directly on github or a lc github lite style site. Import a library into an open stack or download a library into your current projects folder with a one liner using the messagebox eg. "livecode import github. com /bhall2001/fastjson". optionally view libraries in use at the top of the mainstack script

short form syntax for those that want to use it, english language is becoming increasingly abbreviated in it's usage, language evolves, so could the syntax eg. a= 1

slices

custom types which are essentially slices under the hood

multi line string variables

more built in methods for manipulating tables and the datagrid to make them easier to use out of the box

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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by AndyP » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:48 pm

simon.schvartzman wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:19 am
Mosquitto library: such that LC developed Apps will be able to join the IoT universe...

Finger crossed!
Trevor Devore made one.

https://github.com/trevordevore/lc-mosquitto
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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by AndyP » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:51 pm

I would like to see an EASY way to add Andriod sdk's.
Not having this ability turns away would be Android developers
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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by jacque » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:12 pm

view libraries in use at the top of the mainstack script
Not what you asked for exactly, but you can see all libraries in the "stacks in use" pane in the message box.

I'm curious why we'd need multi-line variable names. If you meant variable values, you can already do that.
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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by FourthWorld » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:39 pm

FWIW array element names can include CR. It's not recommended, so I support the docs listing them as prohibited, since things like "the keys" become useless with multi-line names. But AFAIK from testing this out, consistent with the method the engine uses to distinguish names, I believe only NULLs are strictly prohibited.

That said, life is MUCH easier with single-line element names. If multiple parts are needed consider a different separator; semcolons seem a natural fit for that problem.
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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by simon.schvartzman » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:44 pm

AndyP wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:48 pm
simon.schvartzman wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:19 am
Mosquitto library: such that LC developed Apps will be able to join the IoT universe...

Finger crossed!
Trevor Devore made one.

https://github.com/trevordevore/lc-mosquitto
HI Andy, thanks for your hint. Trevor's library isn't available for mobile...
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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by FourthWorld » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:48 pm

What dependencies does Trevor's library have that prevent it from working on mobile platforms?
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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by simon.schvartzman » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:20 am

FourthWorld wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:48 pm
What dependencies does Trevor's library have that prevent it from working on mobile platforms?
Hi Richard, plese see below Trevor's answer

You are correct that the mosquitto project at https://github.com/trevordevore/lc-mosquitto does not have mobile libraries. In order for a LiveCode extension to work on a platform you have to compile a library that goes in the ./code folder. Currently there are compiled libraries for macOS and Windows 32/64-bit:

https://github.com/trevordevore/lc-mosq ... aster/code

Compiling a library can sometimes be the most time consuming part of developing an extension though. Compiling a C library that will work with a LiveCode extension on iOS or Android isn't something I am familiar with so I can't provide much guidance there. You could try asking on the forums or the mailing list to see if anyone wants to chip in. After all, the beauty of Github and open source is that multiple people can contribute to a project.

Another alternative is to reach out to LiveCode and ask about hiring them to get lc-mosquitto working on mobile. Just be aware that the project was one created for a conference talk. I have not used it in any commercial setting other than running some basic tests.

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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by FourthWorld » Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:33 pm

Thank you, Simon.
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Re: What Users want from the next version of LiveCode

Post by sphere » Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:35 pm

-Multi-threading, in other languages eg.Python. One can say do this in this thread and that in that thread.
-HTML5 not the way it is now, but something like an output which is a mix of LC-server and HTML. Again this makes it difficult to deploy, because most servers do not run LC-server. It has to be installed extra. Current HTML5 is deployable, but unworkable.

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