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LiveCloud
I develop for desktop only. But I would love to make an app now and then that I can load "privately'" onto my iPhone.
Does LiveCloud bypass the travail of Apple and Android vetting? In other words, does it live on its own, so that I can "publish" to my own phone in a vacuum?
And could I further "publish' to other selected smartPhones?
I like vacuums. I am unnatural that way.
Craig
Does LiveCloud bypass the travail of Apple and Android vetting? In other words, does it live on its own, so that I can "publish" to my own phone in a vacuum?
And could I further "publish' to other selected smartPhones?
I like vacuums. I am unnatural that way.
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Re: LiveCloud
LiveCloud as in the DB service from Canela Software?
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Re: LiveCloud
Yes.LiveCloud as in the DB service from Canela Software?
LiveCode has announced an Indy package that seems to include it. I was wondering if this was a "stand-alone" way to create an app, load it onto my iPhone and run it from there, bypassing the usual apple store stuff.
I understand the need to vet an app offered for sale. I never understood why I cannot create an iPhone app that runs only on my personal device. After all, I can "sell" apps that run on the desktops of others.
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LiveCloud is an add-on for LiveCode, not a replacement. It provides local database storage for free, with an optional paid plan for cloud sync.
You use it with LC similar to how you would use other DB options. So any requirements for app deployment remain unaffected.
Details available at the LiveCloud site:
https://livecloud.io/canelaDB/
That said, I hear you on the onerousness of deploying your own apps to your own iPhone. That's one of the reasons I use mostly Android - side loading is a breeze, like you actually own the phone you purchased.
You use it with LC similar to how you would use other DB options. So any requirements for app deployment remain unaffected.
Details available at the LiveCloud site:
https://livecloud.io/canelaDB/
That said, I hear you on the onerousness of deploying your own apps to your own iPhone. That's one of the reasons I use mostly Android - side loading is a breeze, like you actually own the phone you purchased.
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It maybe possible to side-load onto iOs, but of course you know I have no knowledge of mobile anything Craig.
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I’ll just chip in that side-loading onto your own iPhone is a one-click business with the LC test button - but only if you have gone through the indeed onerous (and not free) process of getting an Apple Developer Account, creating a provisioning profile, collecting and registering UUIDs from the actual target phones etc).
That way, I and some family members (my drafted beta-testers ) have several apps of my design installed on their iPhones and iPads, without AppStore ever involved. But it’s probably not something you’d go through, or pay for, unless you have business with the iOS market in mind.
For making an app now and then, to be used just privately, it’s hardly worth it. Then Android is indeed so much easier (in that aspect).
Anyway, I stumbled into this thread because I was searching for opinions on LiveCloud.
Moving on…
That way, I and some family members (my drafted beta-testers ) have several apps of my design installed on their iPhones and iPads, without AppStore ever involved. But it’s probably not something you’d go through, or pay for, unless you have business with the iOS market in mind.
For making an app now and then, to be used just privately, it’s hardly worth it. Then Android is indeed so much easier (in that aspect).
Anyway, I stumbled into this thread because I was searching for opinions on LiveCloud.
Moving on…
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Re: LiveCloud
As far as I understand Cloud-based storage it is nothing more than a fancy way of avoiding
carrying a portable hard-drive in your pocket - and is totally useless when visiting your Uncle
in that village in the mountains where there is no internet.
carrying a portable hard-drive in your pocket - and is totally useless when visiting your Uncle
in that village in the mountains where there is no internet.
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It's also a platform-independent way of syncing data across devices. But that's another topic.richmond62 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:27 pmAs far as I understand Cloud-based storage it is nothing more than a fancy way of avoiding
carrying a portable hard-drive in your pocket - and is totally useless when visiting your Uncle
in that village in the mountains where there is no internet.
LiveCloud is a database for LiveCode developers.
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One clarification... you can push an app to your iOS device for free, but it only works for a week at a time.
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So is a portable hard-drive in my pocket . . . think about it!It's also a platform-independent way of syncing data across devices.
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Richmond posts predictably ancient retro-tech example.
This is also amazingly useful:
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Re: LiveCloud
I'm not seeing the advantage of Livecloud over sqlite for local storage. Not even over the use of your own DB which you might have on your own webspace.
Also it's not bad to learn the basics of sql. They can help, because it's used almost everywhere on databases. Also many like to know that their info is stored in their own country.
Also it's not bad to learn the basics of sql. They can help, because it's used almost everywhere on databases. Also many like to know that their info is stored in their own country.
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Re: LiveCloud
@bwmilby, regarding your clarification
If I'm not mistaken this is not the case if you use Apple Configurator 2 to load the App into the target device. I guess there is no time limit with such approach.... you can push an app to your iOS device for free, but it only works for a week at a time.
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By free I mean that you have not obtained a paid developer account. XCode will generate a cert that is only valid a week at a time. If there is another way, I would like to know. I’ll probably end up paying soon enough though.
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I see what you mean, I was focused on how to avoid all the Apple approval process ...
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what if one has an Apple Developers account?
Can one just deploy without any restrictions?
Another thing that concerns me is the monthly subscriptions.
In my part of the world it can be dicy.
The exchange rate can kill you in one month.
Best
Peter G
Can one just deploy without any restrictions?
Another thing that concerns me is the monthly subscriptions.
In my part of the world it can be dicy.
The exchange rate can kill you in one month.
Best
Peter G