Problems with message box and script editor screens

[ClintMA]

I've just installed LiveCode Community 8.0 (dp13) on my Windows 7 computer. Right off the bat, I've encountered two problems:

1. Unfortunately, the message box is no where to be found. I've checked the Preferences and it's marked to appear even when a stack is being run. When I click "Message Box" in the row just below the main menu, the line high lights, but no box appears. I suspect it's off screen. I created a new stack and added a button. In the mouseUp script for the button, I tried this line: "set the loc of the message box to the screenLoc", but the handler wouldn't compile (the line is flagged the line with a red x). I suspect I don't know the correct name for the message box palette (or perhaps it can't be accessed via a script).

2. When I open the script editor, it more than fills the entire screen top to bottom. Since the top (and bottom) of the window is cut off, I can't close it. Like the message box above, I don't know how to change it's size and/or location.

Any suggestions?

[Thierry]

1. .... I tried this line: "set the loc of the message box to the screenLoc"

try this instead:

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set the loc of stack "Message Box" to the screenLoc

2. When I open the script editor, it more than fills the entire screen top to bottom. Since the top (and bottom) of the window is cut off, I can't close it. Like the message box above, I don't know how to change it's size and/or location.

Any suggestions?

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set the rectangle of stack "revNewScriptEditor 1" to ..

HTH,

Thierry

[ClintMA]

Many thanks, Thierry. The information you provides about the correct way to refer to the message box and script editor was very helpful. I was able to fix the script editor very quickly, but the message box was more problematic.

I thought perhaps that my copy of Live Code had become corrupted, so I uninstalled it and then installed it again fresh. I created a new stack on which I placed one button and one field. The script editor for the button opened without problem (unlike the previous installation), but the message box was still missing.

So I placed the following code into the mouseUp handler of the button:

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on mouseUp
   put the stacks & return & return into field 1
   put the visible of stack "message box" & return & return after field 1
   put the rectangle of stack "message box" & return after field 1
   put the screenRect after field 1
end mouseUp

Clicking on the button produced the following:

C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community 8.0 (dp 13)/Toolset/palettes/tools/revtools.livecodescript
C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community 8.0 (dp 13)/Toolset/palettes/message box/revmessagebox.8.rev
C:/Users/Clint/Desktop/Test 4.livecode
C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community 8.0 (dp 13)/Toolset/palettes/script editor/revscripteditor.8.rev
C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community 8.0 (dp 13)/Toolset/palettes/menubar/revmenubar.livecodescript

true

410,1040,970,1201
0,0,1280,720

You will note that line 2 of the results shows that the message box stack is open and the third line from the bottom shows that it is set to be visible. The second to the last line shows that it is off screen (compare to screenRect in the last line).

My guess is that the message box is intentionally initially set to be off screen, and that clicking on the "Message Box" button below the menu bar is supposed to move the the message box location so that it can be seen. But this is not happening for some reason.

Any further suggestions?

[Simon]

Hi ClintMA,
I've got the same problem Win 7 LC 8 dp 13
This should be bug reported.

Simon
edit: the messagebox should be bug reported.

[Simon]

Hi ClintMA,
Something you can test for me.
Open the Dictionary then try to open a new stack (File > New Stack).
Can you do it? I can't while the dictionary is open.

Simon

[Thierry]

Many thanks, Thierry.

My guess is that the message box is intentionally initially set to be off screen, and that clicking on the "Message Box" button below the menu bar is supposed to move the the message box location so that it can be seen. But this is not happening for some reason.

Any further suggestions?

Hi CLint,

First, I don't have LC 8.x on Windows in front of me.

My suggestion is that the latest tester in Edinburgh had a much bigger screen that yours

If setting the loc or rect or visible of the "Message Box" do not work,
then I don't know what else you could do. ( Bug as Simon said?)

Good luck,

Thierry

[jacque]

Try:

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set the loc of stack "message box" to the screenrect

Then you should be able to move it where you want it.

[Thierry]

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set the loc of stack "message box" to the screenrect

Mmm, typo?

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set the rect of stack "message box" to the screenrect

Thierry

[jacque]

Lol. Auto-complete. And we don't really want the rect that large.

Should have been "to the screenloc"

[FourthWorld]

The "DP" in the version string stands for "Developer Preview", made available for experienced developers to test with.

If you need a stable build you'll want to use a version with "Stable" in its name; the most recent "Stable" build is 7.1.1:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

[ClintMA]

Thanks for all the responses. The forums are one of the most valuable features of LiveCode, thanks to the selfless help provided by so many other users.

I will post the problem with the message box in the "Bug Triage" forum. It had occurred to me that this might be a bug, but using the message box is such a frequent need in LiveCode, I would have expected the bug to have been reported within hours of the release.

Given the problems that I've encountered just trying to get going with version 8, I have taken the advice given here and downloaded the latest stable version of 7.

[ClintMA]

Simon,

I apologize for taking so long to reply to post of last week. I made the mistake of saying to myself that I would do it tomorrow, and by the time tomorrow came I had forgotten about it. (Since I'm 74, that may not be too surprising).

With regard to your post: Yes, I can open a new stack when the Dictionary is open (both when it is showing on the screen and when it is minimized). I'm using Windows 7 and the Community 7.1.1 version of LiveCode.

I have no idea why this would be happening to you, unless your Dictionary palette has somehow been corrupted. Hopefully you have already found a solution.

[Simon]

Hi CLint,
Thanks for getting back to me.
No, the problem is specific to LC 8 DP 13 & 14 for me. No troubles with LC 7.1.

Simon

[ClintMA]

Simon,

I just opened LiveCode 8.0 dp 13 and then opened the Dictionary. I was able to create a new stack without problem -- whether the Dictionary was visible or minimized.

My problem with the Dictionary in dp 13 is that when it opens, the panes for the tags and definitions to do fill the whole window. This is only a minor annoyance for the definitions since that pane has scrolls bars (although the bottom arrow is missing), but the tags pane has the bottom portion cut off with no way to get to the tags at the bottom of the list. Do you see this in your installation of dp 13?

[Simon]

Hi CLint,
OK must be something to do with my setup, I won't bug everyone about any more.

Once you re-size the dictionary it will hold the shape and location. Hover the cursor over the LC icon in the task bar then move the cursor over the dictionary image and right click will give you the option to move the window down (just use the down arrow) so you can drag it's corner to a smaller size. Can't do this with the messagebox however grrr.

Simon