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bogs wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 4:58 pm Then you need to learn to use and love childControlNames, because you are not looking for the number or layer of the field, but it's order within the group.

This video may make it clearer for you, but in essence, to find the order of a control within a group within a group within yet ANOTHER group is no more difficult than figuring out its line number, which you can do with code from the previous post, and without a repeat loop.

put lineOffset(fID,the childControlIDS of group lName of me) into fNum

dunbarx wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 6:38 pm PaulClaude

Paul? Claude?

Anyway, it seems you have this in hand. So the topic really was a NATIVE way to:

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put the number of control targetControlReference of grp targetGroup

This sidesteps the issue of who owns who and knowing where your children are.

The good news is that LC invariably offers direct and straightforward ways around these sorts of things.

Craig

put the {internal/order/child} number of fld ID 1234 of group...

I can do it because I have only fields in the group, of course. Many controls (in the group) of different type with variable order make the trick useless.

jacque wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 5:07 pm

I can do it because I have only fields in the group, of course. Many controls (in the group) of different type with variable order make the trick useless.

If you use the keyword "control" rather than "field" it will work for any object.

[-hh] wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 3:14 pm Assume you have a group "main" containing a group "test" that contains fld id 1101 (layer 1), fld id 1012 (layer 2), btn a (layer 3), fld id 1001 (layer 4).

Now use the single function

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function getFldNumberInGroup pNr 
   return 1 - (the number of fld 1 of the owner of fld id pNr) \
            + (the number of fld id pNr)
end getFldNumberInGroup

Then

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put getFldNumberInGroup(1001) into N -- yields 3
select fld N of group "test" of grp "main"

does what you want.

FourthWorld wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 5:51 pm I have a hunch that if we knew more about the UI needing this very specific form of addressing we'd be able to come up with an optimal solution for it easily.

put "this text" into field 2 of group {c}
-- or
get field 4 of group {c}

paulclaude wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 2:09 pm maybe it's me who explains myself wrong in English (this is likely).

bogs wrote: Sun May 26, 2019 11:40 am I agree with Jacque, your english is fine, but unless it is a top government secret or something, please post what exactly you are trying to accomplish.

[-hh] wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 10:38 am Once again, there is a direct function: the number.

If you wish to have the number of a fld relative to its enclosing group then this is 1 + the difference of its number to the number of fld 1 of this enclosing group. So

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function getFldNumberInGroupByID pID
   return 1 - (the number of fld 1 of the owner of fld id pID) \
            + (the number of fld id pID)
end getFldNumberInGroupByID 

is what you want.
TMHO, this is still "direct", no "workaround", could be called the "relative number" of fld id x.

Of course you can get this "relative number" also when identifying fields by their number or name rather than by their short ID:

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function getFldNumberInGroupByName pN 
   return 1 - (the number of fld 1 of the owner of fld pN) + (the number of fld pN)
end getFldNumberInGroupByName

function getFldNumberInGroupByNumber pN 
   return 1 - (the number of fld 1 of the owner of fld pN) + pN
end getFldNumberInGroupByNumber