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Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:31 pm**

Ok,

got few minutes of free time....

Trying to narrow down the problem,
I developped my tdz1 function:

function tdz1 random12, text1080
    local R
    filter lines of text1080 with regex \
          pattern format("^(?:(?:%s)\\s){3}",replaceText(random12,return,"|")) \
          into R
    return R
end tdz1

like this:

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function tdz random12, text1080
    local REX, gotIT, R
    replace return with "|" in random12
    put "^((?:(?:" & random12 &  ")\s){3})" into REX
    filter lines of text1080 with regex pattern REX into R
    return R
 end tdz

The only change I made is replacing this:

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replaceText(random12,return,"|"))

by:

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replace return with "|" in random12

and now, with the original stack script,
there is no more timing distorsion.

HTH for more precise investigation,

Thierry

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:42 pm**

@Thierry: I can see what is happening here - the reason you don't see any timing distortion when you remove the text from the script is that it is used (in the init1 handler) to initialize the test data. When you remove it, the test data becomes empty so all the tests run on nothing.

When I run the tests I get reasonably consistent results for tdz1 for each cycle (0.-7-1 - this is reasonable for single iteration timings on a desktop machine). However, the time taken for tdz2 does double from around 1.6 to 3.2. The reason for this is that after running the original tdz1, the random12 parameter which shares the value with sCards, has been made 16-bit units internally. Thus when this is passed to tdz2, and other functions they all use 16-bit (unicode) processing paths when manipulating it - which, will be at least twice as slow as the 8-bit ones by simple virtue of the fact that the string now takes up twice as much memory.

So, the effects you are seeing are all down to replaceText (and friends) converting the internal representation of the target text string from 8-bit units to 16-bit units.

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:15 pm**

Thanks Mark, all this makes sense

Regards,

Thierry

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:12 pm**

As it turns out the change in internal representation of the pattern is causing adverse behavior in the code used to cache previously used regex's - changing how the cache is searched returns things to a consistent speed and appears to give a tiny bump in performance of matchText/replaceText.

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:19 pm**

So - there are two problems here.

The first is that the target string of replaceText or matchText will change from 8-bit to 16-bit internally as soon as either is run on it - this causes different code paths to be used subsequently for all text processing operations - http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19005.

The second is that the cache implementation for compiled regexs is very inefficient and heavily affected by 16-bit compared to 8-bit internal representation - http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19004.

The inefficient cache is demonstrated quite heavily with tdz2 - as that is repeatedly using the same regex again and again. The conversion problem is demonstrated with all of the tests which process the target string using text operations - although the fix to this also improves performance of tdz2 without changing the cache implementation.

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:14 pm**

Might this also be related to this report from Mark Talluto?:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15711

That script relies on the MatchText function.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:18 am**

@FourthWorld: Thanks for digging up that bug report - I just ran a quick test here (latest develop-8.1 build which contains the two fixes above) against 8.1.1 and running 'Clean my code' on revliburl takes a couple of seconds with the patches, and a few minutes in 8.1.1.

(The patches have now been merged - the changes will first appear in 8.1.3-rc-1).

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