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Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:01 pm
by trevordevore
I like 'the messagepath' as well. I like both.

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:05 pm
by FourthWorld
trevordevore wrote:I like 'the messagepath' as well.
I like it too, provided the objects are listed in top-down order (first to receive down to last).

There's a religious war in the xTalk world about how the message path should be represented, with some preferring that representations follow the natural top-down reading order, and others preferring we follow Goodman's mistake in using an inverted diagram for a bottom-up listing. You can tell which side of the fence I'm on. ;)

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:16 pm
by trevordevore
I'm for top down as well. Just implement it before Ken Ray joins the discussion ;-)

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:55 pm
by FourthWorld
trevordevore wrote:I'm for top down as well. Just implement it before Ken Ray joins the discussion ;-)
Is Ken a bottom-upper? Infidel!

Thanks for taking that on. It'll be very helpful.

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:10 pm
by jacque
Jerry Daniels called it "sky worshippers" and "earth worshippers" which I thought was amusingly accurate.

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:22 pm
by mwieder
I think of it as front-to-back. I don't know what that makes me.

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:42 am
by monte
horizon-worshiper... shun him o ye faithful ;-)

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:10 am
by LCMark
From an implementation sense, front to back (or should that be top to bottom) makes sense - since that's the order the engine processes the message path when actually delivering messages... Also, due to the way the object hierarchy is represented, it is more efficeint to traverse front to back, less so back to front. (I shall avoid getting into any religious war on the matter - I suspect which view is appropriate depends on the context in which you are trying to explain it).

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:25 am
by LCMark
Going back to the subject of inherited behaviors - in particular 'this me'. We're going to go with 'this me' being experimental in 6.1.1 - with a view to finalizing the syntax in the next major release. This allows a modicum more discussion about it as well as more time to try and integrate 'the <something>' into the parser which (having just looked at it in more detail) is a little more involved than I had remembered...

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:24 pm
by mwieder
integrate 'the <something>' into the parser which (having just looked at it in more detail) is a little more involved than I had remembered...
...having just wrestled with the parser to try to integrate "substack" and "memory", I can relate to that.

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:26 pm
by FourthWorld
I just saw the release notes for v6.1.1rc4 - how did "this me" wind up in an actual engine build? There were so many clearer alternatives presented here that I'd thought "this me" was bought up only for humor, no?

Will we see an "aint" operator soon? :)

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:36 pm
by Klaus
FourthWorld wrote:Will we see an "aint" operator soon? :)
:D :D :D

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:41 pm
by FourthWorld
Klaus wrote:
FourthWorld wrote:Will we see an "aint" operator soon? :)
:D :D :D
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3157

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:05 pm
by monte
@FourthWorld I believe it was left as is for this release until the syntax is decided upon

Re: FEATURE_INHERITED_PARENTSCRIPTS

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:16 pm
by mwieder
v6.1.1rc4? Any idea where I can download this?