window to window functionality lacking?

[SparkOut]

There is no snake oil on my machine. Windows 10. 32 bit. Livecode 9 dp4.
I can use Richard's stack to copy and paste within the stack. Outside the lc stack, there is no clipboard content. No ctrl+v, no right click context menu with paste, powershell interrogation of the windows clipboard shows it to be empty.
I can paste between other windows applications without problem. I can paste from other applications into livecode.
This is not the same as not being able to paste coloured runs. So there must be something specific to the environment.
But can you explain without being too scathing why I might not first think the specific thing is Livecode? After all, it's only livecode that has a paste problem.

[FourthWorld]

There is no snake oil on my machine. Windows 10. 32 bit. Livecode 9 dp4.
I can use Richard's stack to copy and paste within the stack. Outside the lc stack, there is no clipboard content. No ctrl+v, no right click context menu with paste, powershell interrogation of the windows clipboard shows it to be empty.

Is that the case if you ONLY use the "Copy" button, and do not use any of the experiment buttons for modifying clipboard arrays?

If so, it would be really great if you or anyone else who can reproduce this would file a bug report.

Going round and round here without notifying the team is eating up time. It'd be a shame if v9 got to RC without a needed fix because no one submitted a bug report for something that was important to them.

[SparkOut]

Yes it is when I only use the copy button.
I will file a report when I can.

[AxWald]

Ooops!

There is no snake oil on my machine.

I wasn't referring to you, sry!

Have fun!

[Ed_Ray]

To keep the background color issue as narrow as possible and at the same time provide the folks that will be eventually pursuing this problem as much information as possible, I built separate independent systems to preclude any inter-dependencies with moderately new to new motherboards, hard drives and compatible graphic cards (I built high end gamer systems so I have plenty of parts around).

I set up windows 7, 8, 10 progressively from the older parts up to the new parts with windows 10 obviously situated on the new parts. I used different hard drives for all the different versions of windows testing the pre-release original version of windows 7, the first service pack win 7 version and all the upgrades that make up “SP2” win 7 ver although Microsoft no longer calls them service packs.

I was unable to locate an original win 8.0 to test because basically the updates automatically converted that ver into ver 8.1 so the only ver 8.0 result is based on what one of my associates reported to me around 2 weeks ago as the only lone representation which I could not verify unequivocally myself.

I set up win 8.1 (the initial release ver and a ver with its most recent updates.
For windows 10 I used a prerelease version, and one with the latest updates as of 2 weeks.
I tested with Livecode versions from versions 7.1.4 up to ver 9 dp4 on ALL of the systems and on ALL the different windows versions. The test items used were the demo file created by Fourthworld and two separate apps created by myself.

=== These are my conclusions: ===
[1] EVERY single win 7 version failed to paste colored backgrounds on EVERY ver of LC used for testing.

[2] Every single version of win 8 passed the color test with ver 7.1.4 of LC yielding an error on the demo test most probably related to not knowing what was the fullclipboard data variable which to my understanding would make sense, since at that past release date, that variable was not known to ver 7.1.4 .

[3] Every single version of win 10 passed the color test with ver 7.1.4 of LC yielding an error on the demo test most probably related to not knowing what was the fullclipboard data variable which to my understanding would make sense, since at that past release date, that variable was not known to ver 7.1.4 .

[4] The lone “wildcard” is the win ver 8.0 system which was reported as failing in a past post but as previously stated, I was not able to personally substantiate the result. Since this is a “rare” system that was not upgraded to ver 8.1 per regularly scheduled updates because some of the updates were causing issues to the internet explorer browser. Therefore it’s possible there were OTHER system issues causing it to not work correctly with the LC version under test.

Although for win 7 this a valid issue that should be resolved, it alleviates me quite a bit when comparing this to the possibility of the results being completely mixed and “random” per system, per win ver and per LC app version which could have been the case.

Now I feel very comfortable for my upcoming Regex app soon to be released, in simply setting up a dialog box for having to launch an inline CSS modified local web page for colored items to be re-selected/copied ONLY if the user cannot paste colored backgrounds in a normal manner. Once the final complete solution is found I would update the app to remove the dialog, no harm done either way. This provides a solution for every possibility of any such failure, for any win ver and for essentially every LC version.

Although not perfect and hardly complete, I feel confident that the meticulous test results provided above will help expedite the final solution to the problem and narrow the focus which inadvertently had been widening.

For Fourthworld;
Would it be appropriate to provide my findings\results within the bug report?. I had waited a bit to do the bug report because I felt it was not helpful just to say this or that does not work and insinuate randomness without providing some substantial data, evidence or some information that could help focus the subject matter. Different forums have different rules so I want to make sure I don’t step on some moderator’s toe.

I want to thank all fellow members that provided help, advice, ideas and recommendations, constructive criticism and even respectful disagreements on this issue and to those that felt compelled to make comments that did not provide any value added to the conversation/solution or whose comments were remarkably absurd, I would say it’s best to be respectful, professional and polite even when oneself rarely fits that category.

Thanks.

[FourthWorld]

For Fourthworld;
Would it be appropriate to provide my findings\results within the bug report?. I had waited a bit to do the bug report because I felt it was not helpful just to say this or that does not work and insinuate randomness without providing some substantial data, evidence or some information that could help focus the subject matter. Different forums have different rules so I want to make sure I don’t step on some moderator’s toe.

I appreciate your sensitivity, but rest assured I was quite in earnest when I suggested filing a bug report several posts ago.

All you'll need is a simple step-by-step recipe so the team can reproduce it. Since this involves backgroundColor, you may find faster response if your recipe includes an example stack. Feel free to use mine as a basis if you like, stripping out everything except for the field with the sample text and the Copy" button, since of course nothing else is needed for this specific issue.

You can submit the report here:
http://quality.livecode.com/

After you submit that please post the URL to the bug report here so folks interested in it can follow its progress.

[Ed_Ray]

Please see link below for bug report: Text color backgrounds not retained outside of LC
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19270.

Thanks