Livecode Create - thoughts?

[jacque]

The problem (such as it is) is NOT LC (and . . .) it is the lack of any attempt at any sort of marketing that has any rhyme or reason, as has been the case for many, many years.

They are marketing, just not to us so much. As I said, we're not the target group any more so you're unlikely to see it.

[dunbarx]

They are marketing, just not to us so much. As I said, we're not the target group any more so you're unlikely to see it.

"We", "Us".

But then why the hoopla about "Create"? Is it that development for even very experienced programmers is also mightily enhanced? I always thought Create was mainly a means to attract new users with a more friendly drag and drop UI. Shows what I know.

I spend likely far less time than I should planning my projects; I have never made a flowchart. After a few controls are dragged onto a card I am buried inside the SE right away, and live there almost all the time thereafter.

I suppose in the end all I care about is the health of LiveCode. In any case I can survive very nicely forever, as I said, simply with the enhanced itemdelimiter

Craig

[richmond62]

the enhanced itemdelimiter

?

Do tell.

[Klaus]

We can now, well since a long time actually, do:

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set the itemdel to "#oh_my_oh_my_richmond#"
## :-D
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And parse a funny text for items delimited by this also funny string!

[stam]

But then why the hoopla about "Create"? Is it that development for even very experienced programmers is also mightily enhanced? I always thought Create was mainly a means to attract new users with a more friendly drag and drop UI. Shows what I know.

LCC is no more drag and drop than LC is. The main selling point was AI integration so you can type out what you want and the IDE would create it (as most are familiar with from web-based AI) but judging by the code chatGPT and Claude AI produce in terms of LC code, there is likely quite a bit of AI training still required compared to the high volume languages the AIs have feasted on.

The other selling point was in the form of new widgets
Not that you couldn’t emulate these with workarounds, but it’s just nicer - for example the new field widget comes with meaning and trailing icons that can be clicked. Sure, you can emulate this in old LC, but it’s slicker and probably easier with the widget.
Nothing vital really, but an evolution rather than a revolution (ahem…).

But I use these in Classic/LC10, not LCC. LCC has not enhanced my coding so far, where as the old, dated IDE is functional as ever.

So really I’m just using these next iteration of what should have been LC10, so it’s hard to feel I’m now using a new pro tool. It’s been a little while since I tried LCC instead of classic, maybe LCC is now closer to release, but my previous experience suggested that’s a way off still.

So if the tool hasn’t changed or improved there must be some other amazing plan to draw in new users…
Maybe marketing we're not seeing? Which then also raises the question of why we’re not seeing this?