Livecode Create - thoughts?

Anything beyond the basics in using the LiveCode language. Share your handlers, functions and magic here.

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Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?

Post by richmond62 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:14 pm

A Python front-end with draggable objects would be super.

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Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?

Post by richmond62 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:17 pm

All competition has AI
That does NOT attract me one bit . . .

If I want to use A.I. to do my programming it does not have to be built into an IDE: in fact I would far rather it weren't, so I can choose whether or not to use it rather than have it "shoved up my nose" willy-nilly.

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Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?

Post by stam » Wed Sep 10, 2025 9:59 pm

Some random thoughts: There was a time when LC *could* have become a Python killer, but that ship has long since sailed sadly.

You have to hand it to the PSF for setting up Python as a charitable project and networking with all the universities, which has been the main driver for its success in getting widely adopted.

But as a language, Python script is tedious and a little bit childish in some ways. LiveCode script is IMO much nicer and more concise (in spite it’s verbosity) - any language that needed to come up with F-strings is just daft.

But python's strength is in all the complex and free libraries created for it, something that LC never really managed to get off the ground in a wider way sadly.

So now we have a closed source, paid-for product in a world of free professional tools that have proven value. LC has not managed to successfully define a good target demographic for either free or paid-for products and as such will struggle to profit.

There are some visual GUIs for Python already, for example PyQt, wxPython) but none are as complete as LC is. Selling LC as a Python GUI doesn’t seem feasible tho… maybe a free version to hook devs into LC, but it’s hard to see how that would be financed.

I’d like to see LiveCode proper and succeed because it’s a uniquely great language and the IDE, while could be modernised, is functional. I hope they can find their way forward with LCC.

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