Disappearing Windows in LiveCode 10 on OSX Sonoma

[tcb]

Am working through new and legacy LiveCode tutorials and find any time I click outside the active stack window, say to pause the tutorial video, my Tools and Inspector windows disappear whilst stack window remains.

How do I get Livecode windows to stay open unless I explicitly close them manually?

I've unselected BACKDROP but that doesn't seem to help.

[dunbarx]

Hi.

An interesting question. This is "normal" behavior, I think; there is nothing in the User Guide that addresses this. There are stacks (everything is LC is a stack) that do indeed stay open when switching to other apps, like the "Preferences" stack.

But it means stacks could stay open. There must be a property that determines that, likely somewhere in the engine code.

Anyone know?

Craig

[jacque]

It's probably the hidePalettes property which is is set to true on OS X.

[dunbarx]

Jacque.

Nailed it, again.

I searched everywhere for "show". figuring that if there was such a property at all, it would contain that keyword and would need to be set to "true". It never occurred to me to look for "hide", to find a property that needed to be set to "false".

Craig

[dunbarx]

And of course I never heard of it.

But I immediately set it to "false", as I often want to see stuff in LC while I am in another app, like textEdit, which might contain information I want to modify or include in a stack I am working on.

Note that the property, though global, does not survive sessions.

Craig

[dunbarx]

I have always found it odd that certain global properties are set differently on different platforms. The "hidePalettes" property default is "true" on Mac OS, but "false" on Windows and Linux.

For what possible reason?

Craig

[FourthWorld]

Is there a Mac app that doesn't hide its palettes when it goes into the background?

Apple's HIG suggests they should.

[dunbarx]

Is there a Mac app that doesn't hide its palettes when it goes into the background?

Richard.

Are you saying this is really not advisable? Or this is extraordinary flexibility courtesy of LC?

Craig

[tcb]

But I immediately set it to "false", ........

Where did you go in LiveCode 10 to change it to false?

[FourthWorld]

Apple's HIG suggests palettes be hidden when the app goes to the background.

MC/Rev/LC is following spec.

[jacque]

But I immediately set it to "false", ........

Where did you go in LiveCode 10 to change it to false?

I don't think it's available in the IDE, but you can use the message box or insert the command into a script in your stack.

[dunbarx]

@ tcb. It is a global property that can be set in any way you prefer.

I don't think it's available in the IDE,

Jacque, what do you mean? That it has to be set "manually", as you mentioned, that is, not a LC preference or a switch in the inspector?

Craig

[jacque]

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant there's no graphical way to change it in the IDE, it has to be scripted.