Focus on nothing not working on Windows? [SOLVED]

[stam]

Hi all,
Slight cosmetic issue with 'focus on nothing' on Windows.

I'm building one of my apps on a Mac, but mainly intended to run on Windows.
After a splash stack initialises the main stack, this brings up a login card - i have fields with placeholder text in the username/password fields. This placeholder text disappears when entering the field, so this doesn't show if the field has the focus.

On Mac, i can just run 'focus on nothing' and both fields show their placeholder text.
On Windows, the last field always has the focus, hiding it's placeholder text - which is annoying.

Here's what it's supposed to look like:

Any suggestions to not allow any of the fields to get the focus after initialising?

[andresdt]

Hello,
Here is a sample stack, although it is not exactly like the image, you already have an idea of how to do it.
Hope this helps you.

[jacque]

Does "select empty" work any better?

[andresdt]

Hope this does help you.

[stam]

Thanks @andresdt - i must be a bit dense today tho, how does this stop the fields from getting the focus on Windows?

[stam]

Does "select empty" work any better?

I'll try that when I'm at a windows work machine again - the rate limiting step for me is i don't have an easily accessible Windows machine for testing and in any case cannot replicate the locked down environment at the target machine, so i have build, transfer, test, fail and repeat
getting there though!

[FourthWorld]

"Focus on nothing" is not intended to be an executable statement in a script. It's a reminder for the scripter. Practiced with earnestness, it can help you transcend any need to worry about trying to make Windows look attractive.

[SparkOut]

"Focus on nothing" is not intended to be an executable statement in a script. It's a reminder for the scripter. Practiced with earnestness, it can help you transcend any need to worry about trying to make Windows look attractive.

I had to read that twice before I saw what you did there.
If you had included a big image, I might have thought you were channelling Richmond.

[jacque]

One more possibility: It's a result of LC's (irritating) auto-select of the first editable field when a card opens. If your password field is the first-layered one then that could be what's happening, though in theory it should do the same thing on Mac too. The workaround is to turn off traversalOn in preOpenCard and turn it back on using a "send" command after openCard finishes.

This probably isn't the reason since it doesn't happen on Mac, but maybe the workaround will fix it anyway. Another Windows-only workaround is to put a button at a lower level than the fields. On Windows, buttons can have traversalOn and the button would get the selection instead of the field.

[SparkOut]

Just for the record

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focus on nothing

is tested working on Windows here, using a basic stack.
I am not sure what is going on in the OP's stack, but it shouldn't need jiggery-pokery to work, but then there's jiggery-pokery going on with the placeholder text construction.

[andresdt]

Apparently I need to sleep!
I don't know if I understand your problem.
what you want is that when entering the login card the username field is selected?

If that's, you can do like this:

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on openCard
    focus on field "username" of me
end openCard

then in the username field you can put:

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on enterInField
    focus on field "password" of this card
end enterInField

on returnInField
    enterInField
end returnInField

[jacque]

Not exactly. When the card opens he wants nothing selected. LC auto-selects the first editable field and if that's what's happening then it's interfering with the default hint text for that field. There may be a timing issue involved.

If none of the suggestions here work, I think I'd send a specific command to show hint text after the card opens.

[stam]

Thanks @jacque

Timing was probably the issue in the standalone.
I have a card handler does some init stuff for the login fields and ends with 'focus on nothing'. I call this directly at the end of openStack. In the IDE this works fine but on the Win stand alone it didn't, leaving the focus on a field and spoiling the placeholder text effect.

This is what it's supposed to look like

This is what actually happened no matter what the code

Just annoying enough

Taking a cue from Jacque's suggestion, Instead of call the handler directly, i tried using

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send <init-handler> to me in 0.5 seconds

and it works fine.
Well, fine-ish, as there is a quick flash where the field does get the focus but at this point i'll live with that.

Thanks all!

[FourthWorld]

Stam, is that for Mayo?

[jacque]

I wonder if a lockscreen would overcome the flash.