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My LiveCode site may be going away

Post by Newbie4 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:45 am

My LiveCode website - Learn to Program by Creating Games, Apps and Programs ( bit.ly/erhslc or https://sites.google.com/a/pgcps.org/livecode/ ) may be going away in the next month or two.

I apologize, it is beyond my control. It is Google’s decision and

So if you are using it for your classes, to learn LiveCode or for reference, please make a copy of it. I would recommend using the Mac app - SiteSucker. It is free and can download the entire site automatically and in the background. It will relocate all links so that it would be fully functional in its new location (locally on your hard drive). You can then use it at home on your computer with no Internet access needed.

As an explanation, it was created using Google websites. Google is retiring those old “classic” websites and requiring that they be converted to the new version of Google websites. The classic sites will stop working in Sept/Oct. I no longer have admin rights to do the conversion.

I hope by downloading the complete sites, that the Google html routines will be downloaded as well and continue working. I am not sure. We will find out Sept/Oct. if the copies are disabled too.

I would have written it in pure HTML but I was too busy learning and teaching LiveCode at the same time. As the students and I learned LiveCode together, I saw the need to document the learning path, the gotcha’s, the “ah ha” moments, the quirks, the problems we ran into and the many variations of code they came up with. We needed to document the most common questions and their answers. The lessons online would provide a resource for the students and myself to look back on for review and for future classes. I wanted to document their questions and problems along with the solutions that we found. They had so many ideas for new games that those also needed written down for the future projects. It was a busy time, learning and recording at night and teaching in the day. Google websites just made the job of documenting the day’s lessons, easier.

When I retired, all my accounts and data were deleted. For that reason, I had transferred ownership to another teacher, preserving it until she retires. I would ask her to do the conversion of the site but I do not think it will work. i have tried to convert another Google website to the new version but it did not work very well. I had to redo it from scratch. So I do not have much hope that the LiveCode site will convert either and would require too much work to redo.

Sorry for the long post but I just wanted to explain the situation and apologize for the loss of the site.

I have been monitoring it using Google Analytics since 2014. Over the last 7 years on a monthly basis, it has averaged approx. 1,000 new users every month. 80% of those were from “organic” searches but 20% are either “direct” or “referral”. I assume that some of those may be from organized LiveCode classes. So if you are using it in any part, please make your own copy of it.

I thank all of you for finding it worthwhile enough to use. It gives me satisfaction that my work was not for naught.

Thanks
Cyril Pruszko
https://sites.google.com/a/pgcps.org/livecode/
https://sites.google.com/a/setonhs.org/app-and-game-workshop/home
https://learntolivecode.com/

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Re: My LiveCode site may be going away

Post by FourthWorld » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:51 am

Do you need hosting?

I could add a section at LiveCodeJournal.com for those materials.
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Re: My LiveCode site may be going away

Post by Newbie4 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:01 am

Thanks for the idea and offer.
I wish it were that easy.

It uses a lot of javascript functions and Google code. It is impossible to read and edit at the javascript/html level. Just look at the source of one of the pages.

Besides ownership questions of those functions, I do not know if there is anything that links back to Google that could be disabled.

Downloading the complete site may work now but later?

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https://sites.google.com/a/pgcps.org/livecode/
https://sites.google.com/a/setonhs.org/app-and-game-workshop/home
https://learntolivecode.com/

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Re: My LiveCode site may be going away

Post by saw » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:27 pm

Copy on The Wayback Machine seems to work ok

https://web.archive.org/web/20210507204 ... /livecode/

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Re: My LiveCode site may be going away

Post by FourthWorld » Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:20 pm

Wayback links don't often work for files.

I wish I had time to archive the materials there, but if anyone else does my offer to host them at the community LiveCodeJournal.com site still stands.
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