What happen the stack handlers "Open" and "PreOpen"?

[DR White]

In LC 9.6 stack handlers "Open" and "PreOpen are no longer on the pick list and now there is one called "Startup".
What is the reason for the change and does "Startup" now include both stack handlers "Open" and "PreOpen?
Where do I set my opening parameters? I am guessing "Startup".


Thanks,

David

[jmburnod]

Hi David,
Do you mean preopenstack and openstack ?
No change in my LiveCode 9.6.0 (rc 1) i can see preopenstack and openstack on the pick list.
Best regards
Jean-Marc

[DR White]

Humm.

I just opened a new stack and I am not seeing in my Handler List



LC 9.6.0 RC 2?

[jmburnod]

Strange
What happens if you type instead ?
Does it work as expected ?
Jean-Marc

[DR White]

Typing in "on PreOpenStack" seems to work as normal.
Just thinking that for beginners it is a little confusing, but not a big deal for me.

Just thought I would ask.

Thanks for your help,

David

[jmburnod]

Just thinking that for beginners it is a little confusing

Indeed, but it seems this appear in 9.0.6 rc2.
A bug report to quality center would be appreciated

[DR White]

I can't remember the link

[bogs]

quality.livecode.com/

[jmburnod]

I confirm that preopenstack and openstack doesn't appear LC 9.0.6 rc2

[DR White]

I filed a bug report:

Bug 22747 - In LC 9.0.6 rc2 all the Stack handlers (including Open and PreOpen) are not showing up Stack handler pick list.

[DR White]

LC says this behavior is expected.

[bogs]

From a support point of view, I can see why they might have gone that route. I think it has been for a long time the question of the best place for those particular messages to get handled, due to the way the path works.

New people to Lc *might* wind up less confused, and longer time users will probably just write them where they want them.

Of course, that assumes a new user is going to some how know about them, know why locating one in the main stack would be maybe not optimal, etc., and in the mean time you've confused everyone else that has been using the language more than say, 1 year.

[richmond62]

Every time I have used preOpenStack and openStack they have not worked very well, so now
I tend to go for preOpenCard and openCard.

[bogs]

LOL, well, you can't be much more vague than that

Care to elaborate ?

[richmond62]

They just don't work, while preOpen and open in a card do.

Err . . . possibly the LiveCode 'thang' has become so complicated that loading
it into the memory means there is some sort of problem with doing stuff before the stack is displayed on screen.