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Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:30 pm
by richmond62
GRADIENTS ?

Cannot find a way to manage those in LC8 and upwards.
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Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:17 pm
by Klaus
Hi Richmond,

now that you mention it... :D
Looks like they are only available for (opaque) graphic objects anymore.


Best

Klaus

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:47 pm
by FourthWorld
Were they ever available for buttons and fields? I had a feature request for that years ago, but i don't think it was acted on, was it?

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:58 pm
by Klaus
I hardly used this feature and really don't remember.

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:08 pm
by bogs
Under colors in the later IDE.
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Colors and gradients...

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:18 pm
by richmond62
8.1.9 (mainly because 8.1.10 tends to go wonky every now and then on Xubuntu) . . .
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Oh, Yes, faint tones of jadedness there.
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that being the stack I saved from 7.1.4.

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:31 pm
by richmond62
Of course the way gradients was moved from, err, 'gradients' to a subset of colours
without pointing this out to end-users is high-handed crap.

"How wise one might be, and how much one might learn, making enquiries at the Bellingham show."

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:15 pm
by bogs
Yah, only thing I can think of is that they were
..a.) trying to cut down on the number of panels to switch to and
..b.) it kinda makes sense to put it into colo(u)rs.

I am pretty sure that it is noted (somewhere) in the documentation after the switch, but of course if your used to a product, you might not immediately go look at the documentation, kind of a double edge sword.

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:30 pm
by richmond62
only thing I can think of
Well, most of us can think . . . 8)

But I can smell wafts coming from the mushroom factory again.

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:43 pm
by FourthWorld
richmond62 wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:30 pm
only thing I can think of
Well, most of us can think . . . 8)

But I can smell wafts coming from the mushroom factory again.
Gradients are there, and working well for me in v9.0.1. What's not working there for you, on which OS?

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:49 pm
by richmond62
They are all working fine: however, if you read my original few postings a little more carefully you will see what fusses me is NOT gradients, but information flow.

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:47 pm
by FourthWorld
richmond62 wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:49 pm
They are all working fine: however, if you read my original few postings a little more carefully you will see what fusses me is NOT gradients, but information flow.
It's hard to follow when you write in disjointed snippets.

What information is not flowing to your satisfaction?

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:21 am
by richmond62
you write in disjointed snippets
As I teach English to Primary children all day, and am extremely careful to use a reduced vocabulary, enunciate everything carefully and repeat everything 3 times, I assume that I can relax "over here" and write things differently.

"a vast central herd of monosyllabic gum chewing yanks" https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... dSwRlvmyFY

This is odd, as on all my visits to the United States (and having lived there for 3 years), I found most
Americans, frankly more verbal and better at expressing themselves than most English people.

I am not, and haven't been for many years, happy with the way LiveCode suddenly spring surprise interface changes on LiveCode users without either pointing these changes out, or, for that matter any obvious end-user consultation.

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:48 am
by bogs
richmond62 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:21 am
"a vast central herd of monosyllabic gum chewing yanks" https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... dSwRlvmyFY
Good story, but the 5th post by Fitch R. Williams citing E. Brooke Harlowe's research was great!
richmond62 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:21 am
I am not, and haven't been for many years, happy with the way LiveCode suddenly spring surprise interface changes on LiveCode users without either pointing these changes out, or, for that matter any obvious end-user consultation.
Huh, I thought the interface was remarkably stable for long periods of time, i.e. the 2.x series stayed the same, 3.x to 7.1.4 was essentially the same (with minor changes in which stacks were loaded and folder arrangements), 8.x to 9.x looks the same to me, though I don't use them enough to really say for sure.

There definitely are more changes that were made from 7.x to 9.x compared to the previous generations, but I think the beta releases are where consultation would be listened too, before the series is hardened into a released stable.

Since none of my dev systems are (officially) supported, my own input would be of limited value. In fact, most of the 8.1.x IDEs and up don't completely work on my boxes, which is sad since if I have to load one to help someone here, it requires the additional step of firing up a VM just to run the IDE. From where I sit, that is a much greater tragedy :?

Re: Whatever happened to . . . . .

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:42 pm
by FourthWorld
In other posts you've complained that the IDE changed too little. Hard for me to keep up. ;)

Help me understand: can you point me to the enhancement requests you've filled from working with early-stage releases so I can better understand the flow of the communications?