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With the announcement of the SDK for the iPhone, it would be briliant if at some point in the future Revolution could be extended to compile for iPhone, Pocket PC, Palm etc.

Porting revolution to the iPhone should be possible any way because doesn't it use Macintosh as the OS?

The SDK in its current for is pretty restrictive. It does not allow to run interpreted code. So even if it might be technically possible to port the engine, it is unlikely that apple would allow programs made with it installed on the iPhone.

We'll see what the future brings.

All the best,

Malte

RealBasic, Revolution, mono - I'll take the first RAD alternative that comes along. Objective C - what a dreadful old school language hack. And Apple's use of it, has protectionism written all over it.

There is already one licensed 3rd party tool for the iPhone development, that uses Javascript, Boo Script or C++ your choice. Rumored to be released in the 4Q of this year. Actually you can develop for it now, you just can not make the final build for the device yet.

It not like revolution, in super easy to develope something but it is much better than using xcode.

Obleo wrote:There is already one licensed 3rd party tool for the iPhone development, that uses Javascript, Boo Script or C++ your choice. Rumored to be released in the 4Q of this year. Actually you can develop for it now, you just can not make the final build for the device yet.

Got a link?

Figure you could google for it. But I see it not a top hit. considering this is revolution's board I site mail to you.

Please send me the link, too.

Mark

It's not clear though that this game development system will allow you to develop standard iphone applications.

Contact there support, and ask them questions. There nice people and very helpful and always answer back.

I am not a php programmer, but a php IDE is availabale on the iPhone (look for Mides IDE in the App Store, productivity section (or whatever it is called in English)

chaplais wrote:I am not a php programmer, but a php IDE is availabale on the iPhone (look for Mides IDE in the App Store, productivity section (or whatever it is called in English)

This is not a tool with which you can develop an iphone app.

Any ajax development tool will work.

Tools that I know for a fact work, based on demos I've seen are Morfik and 4D.

Background:

Morfik is a RAD/IDE like most others, except that you can write your application code in Object Pascal, Object BASIC, C#, or Java. Morfik then builds the HTML and JS from there, the database structures, etc. and handles all the interfaces. The demos were slick. The visuals are awesome. It supports the back and forward buttons, as well as bookmarks and offline application access (which were demo'd long before GWT/Google Gears were even a twinkle in anybody's eye). That said, it still uses strongly-typed languages, which, frankly, I hate and have hated since I took my first CS class WAAAAAAAAY back in The Day.

4D is an old-line Mac and PC RDBMS RAD/IDE that now also has a Web 2.0 plugin which enables you to build apps for iPhone. The demos were also slick. 4D's language is proprietary. It has its roots in Pascal, but it is nothing like Pascal. I found the transition from HyperCard to 4D to be really simple 20-or-so years ago. The paradigm and the way it views the world are, I believe, an easier move for a RR-head than Morfik will be. Once HC sort of died, 4D became my primary development tool, where it remains to this day, although RR is threatening to take over that spot. 4D can be expensive once you start strapping everything onto it. In addition, 4D's Web 2.0 plugin does NOT support the back or forward buttons or bookmarks, and it does not support offline access.

All of that said, both are excellent choices for Web 2.0 applications and both are used by significant installations.

HOWEVER, you also might be able to make RoR work for you. I have not tried it yet. You might also be able write your own such interface. Having seen what people have done to build web converters in IDE's that are not designed to be Web Servers, I am thoroughly convinced that you can blast one out in RR, too.

Mikey wrote:Any ajax development tool will work.

Tools that I know for a fact work, based on demos I've seen are Morfik and 4D.

Background:

Morfik is a RAD/IDE like most others, except that you can write your application code in Object Pascal, Object BASIC, C#, or Java. Morfik then builds the HTML and JS from there, the database structures, etc. and handles all the interfaces. The demos were slick. The visuals are awesome. It supports the back and forward buttons, as well as bookmarks and offline application access (which were demo'd long before GWT/Google Gears were even a twinkle in anybody's eye). That said, it still uses strongly-typed languages, which, frankly, I hate and have hated since I took my first CS class WAAAAAAAAY back in The Day.

4D is an old-line Mac and PC RDBMS RAD/IDE that now also has a Web 2.0 plugin which enables you to build apps for iPhone. The demos were also slick. 4D's language is proprietary. It has its roots in Pascal, but it is nothing like Pascal. I found the transition from HyperCard to 4D to be really simple 20-or-so years ago. The paradigm and the way it views the world are, I believe, an easier move for a RR-head than Morfik will be. Once HC sort of died, 4D became my primary development tool, where it remains to this day, although RR is threatening to take over that spot. 4D can be expensive once you start strapping everything onto it. In addition, 4D's Web 2.0 plugin does NOT support the back or forward buttons or bookmarks, and it does not support offline access.

All of that said, both are excellent choices for Web 2.0 applications and both are used by significant installations.

HOWEVER, you also might be able to make RoR work for you. I have not tried it yet. You might also be able write your own such interface. Having seen what people have done to build web converters in IDE's that are not designed to be Web Servers, I am thoroughly convinced that you can blast one out in RR, too.

Morfik looks very cool! Although it cant be used to make iphone utilities and such...

No, Morfik and 4D cannot be used to build native apps. They build Ajax apps that will then run on the iPhone in Safari.