RunRev for Handhelds

FrankR · Post by **FrankR** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:13 pm

I wonder if the company has ever discussed internally trying to attack the growing Handheld community with RunRev. Handhelds could be the Trojan Horse that RunRev rides into town with.

If all that work was done to get the product to create native apps for 3 OS worlds, it should be feasible to support some subset of the feature set on:
- Windows Mobile
- Small footprint Linux distributions

?

FrankR · Post by **FrankR** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:38 pm

BvG · Post by **BvG** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:04 pm

Frankly, I don't think it's that good an idea. RR is a small company with a restricted budget.In my Oppinion, they have already trouble making all platforms they promised a reality, while maintaining a bug free environment. And at the current pace they're at, it will certainly be years before they're ready for another platform.

Don't get me wrong, of course it would be great to have additional platforms supported, i just don't think its feasible yet.

It would be cool if someone official could comment on the situation.

shw · Post by **shw** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:16 pm

Well I'm feeling a bit embarrased. In another forum I've been asking about Windows CE and Linux for smartphones. We also make an Internet based system and get the same kind of question as the one above and my own. 'Doe it do this? Does it do that? Why not? When will it?' Small companies make a mistake when they try to move away from their core business. Compiling for Windows, Mac and Linux sounds pretty good enough to me! Handhelds and smartphones can wait...

Simon

FrankR · Post by **FrankR** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:05 pm

shw wrote:Handhelds and smartphones can wait...
Simon

Mmm. Really? SmartPhones are knocking on the opportunity door.
The knocking is very loud. The door is going to burst open any second.

Who will be there to serve the demand - and collect the cash?

Obleo · Post by **Obleo** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:36 pm

FrankR wrote:
shw wrote:Handhelds and smartphones can wait...
Simon
Mmm. Really? SmartPhones are knocking on the opportunity door.
The knocking is very loud. The door is going to burst open any second.

Who will be there to serve the demand - and collect the cash?

The door already has burst open. Java (J2ME) would be your answer for walking into that arena. Another product that just focuses on smart phone development is already available for developers, if your looking for template base solution other wise any java editor will do.

Revolution is great for most desktop solutions, If you want to cash in, as a developer you need to use more than one development tool at times to get that done.

shw · Post by **shw** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:43 am

Mmmm Java...

I was hoping that Revolution might be able to help with Windows CE and Linux for smartphones - that's about 20% of the market. If there is an alternative solution it would be interesting to know.

I have been having second thoughts about my apology. The truth is that even a small company like ours is trying to get an application to work on smartphones. Undoubtably we are not the only ones! Maybe runrev should look at this opportunity a bit more closely.

Simon

FrankR · Post by **FrankR** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:43 pm

> The door already has burst open.
> Java (J2ME) would be your answer for walking into that arena.

No, Java is An answer, not The answer.

> Revolution is great for most desktop solutions,
> If you want to cash in, as a developer you need to use
> more than one development tool at times to get that done

I have been developing for 20 years, and I have used just about every tool under the sun. I'm pretty familiar with matching the tool to the job after all those years. But the fact remains that RunRev, with all the work that was done to target to 3 platforms, is indeed a candidate to target to the emerging Small Device/HandHeld/Phone world now breaking open in a big way.

Let's face it - RunRev is not for All kinds of app development, but it Does seem to be for certain categories of Lighter apps - and it's not much of a stretch to imagine Handheld apps among those.

FrankR · Post by **FrankR** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:53 pm

Well, I didn't really expect a whole lot of constructive dialog on this, or comments from the company themselves, but, I'll end it still asserting this is a potentially Significant opportunity.

I know a very large legion of developers from my work over the years, and to be honest, None of them even Heard of RunRev. I see this product as a very cool, very powerful development tool for Certain types of apps, and I also see it as sitting in a very small, nichey market. It's a product that simply most people never heard of.

If that's the goal of the company to sit in that space, great. But, if they're waiting for some hot release that is Finally going to get this to take off in the Big numbers, they'll be waiting forever. There's just too much going on in the desktop development world to build momentum with this product without having some Trojan Horse opportunity. The Small Device / Handheld segment growing in leaps and bounds is that Trojan Horse opportunity. When I go search for tools in the Handheld world, I see just a few not-so-great, not-so-fun, not-so-mature tools. There's no Turbo Pascal of Handhelds yet, and lots of developers will pay attention when it arrives.

As they say in Brooklyn, whatevuh.

Troy · Post by **Troy** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:32 pm

FrankR,

For what its worth, I agree with you. There are feature requests logged in the official system (Bugzilla). If you use that system you can find them and "vote" for them, which indicates your interest more clearly to RunRev.