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MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by richmond62 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:04 pm

Obviously Apple are a bloody-minded lot making it necessary
to install a whopping great Xcode install (for which I do not have space)
nowaday, unlike in the past when one could pick and choose which components
one required . . .

Is this:

xip -x /Volumes/X6/Xcode_13.3.xip going to allow me
to decompress the 'thing' onto an external drive?

AND, will it function from there?

I can hear a spectral whispering, "Symbolic link" somewhere near my left lug. 8)

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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by stam » Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:36 pm

I don't think you need to install Xcode in it's entirety, just the CLI tools.

To install Xcode tools without Xcode, type this in the terminal:

Code: Select all

xcode-select --install
Mind you that will take up space as well, but not sure how much...
Hope that helps,
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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by dunbarx » Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:14 pm

Richmond.

I thought that these days space was cheap. How big is Xcode, anyway?

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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by stam » Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:16 pm

dunbarx wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:14 pm
How big is Xcode, anyway?
12.7 Gb....

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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by dunbarx » Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:32 am

Hmm.

That is big, alright. But these days, that is about $0.50 worth of storage. Well perhaps not a famous brand...

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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by richmond62 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:49 am

It requires 30 GB to install, on the home drive.

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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by stam » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:26 am

Pretty sure installing the tools only would be a a *lot* less

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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by richmond62 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:37 am

Insufficient to build LC from source?

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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by stam » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:51 am

Ah I misunderstood your needs - yeh for that you will need the full package.

But then I don’t understand what your OP was about - I got the impression you were bemoaning the fact that you had to download Xcode to build apps with LC.

That obviously doesn’t apply if you need to build apps with Xcode.

If your looking to free up space, might I suggest investing in an app called CleanMyMacX. It will clear out a ton of system junk for you. First time I ran it, it cleared out about 40 Gb, and I use it weekly on my Mac now (plus it has lots of nice features to improve performance). It also has a utility to graphically assess your storage which occasionally helps locate stuff that isn’t needed, as the automated process will not target your personal files. I get it free with a Setapp subscription as I use multiple apps from this and it ends up more cost effective. I think there’s a free trial when u first download…

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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by richmond62 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:02 am

There is evidence that CleanMyMacX contains spyware.

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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by richmond62 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:11 am


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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by stam » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:52 am

richmond62 wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:02 am
There is evidence that CleanMyMacX contains spyware.
Excuse my French but that’s b*******

Highly unlikely as it would be available on apple’s App Store if that were true.

I use malwarebytes and Little Snitch and not once in several years of usage has CMM ever even remotely showed up as a threat.

The main source of this “evidence” seems to be a user slightly full of themselves pasting unsubstantiated claims on an apple forum.

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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by richmond62 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:07 am

That's not French.

It is quite possible that is an ugly rumour . . . but I prefer to avoid things on which there is sh*t (whether justified or not) as sh*t sticks
and there is very little sh*t without fire (to mix things up).

I use the built-in tools, and, not-withstanding,unless I 'shift-off' lots of applications (which I might have to do)
I will not manage an Xcode install.

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Re: MacOS, Xcode and the Space Program.

Post by stam » Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:49 am

Well, i swear by CleanMyMacX - it does things native tools do not do and cleans out a lot of unnecessary logs etc which over years can take up several Gb. in fact if you've had the mac for any length of time it's highly likely to free up at least ~20 Gb of storage (not only based on my usage from from my wife's laptop and friends as well).

Especially useful is that it will delete 'purgeable space' - this is space that seems to be free but has not really been cleared by the OS. Theoretically the OS will purge this and offer it up when needed but in practice when wanting to install huge files it you'll get the response that there isn't enough free space even though the OS may report that you do have enough space. Lots of nice features like that.

As mentioned it can also graphically show you your various directories in terms of size and this lets you hone in on larger folders where there may be stuff you've forgotten about which can easily get rid of to make more space.

Another app that does this well is DaisyDisk ('low tech' approach with no automated clearing but a nice visual map of your folders by size that lets you investigate what most of the storage is taken up by and choose to remove it yourself).

CMMX does lots of useful things and i can't recommend it highly enough if you're looking to create more free space but can't find something to delete. It also features other tools that may occasionally be helpful like managing launch agents, do a full uninstall (when you delete an app, it will search and find all related folders in the Application Support, Preferences etc and offer to delete these as well) and lots of other useful maintenance tasks for OSX.

As mentioned I use Malwarebytes Premium (my bank provides a licence for this) as well as Little Snitch (an excellent application firewall) and never has there once been a suspicion of malware of any kind. And it's highly unlikely Apple would approve this on the app store if that were the case...

If you don't trust this then have a look at DaisyDisk mentioned above - a low tech approach but also quite helpful in localising forgotten folders full of deletable stuff...

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