Stencyl

Want to talk about something that isn't covered by another category?

Moderators: Klaus, FourthWorld, heatherlaine, kevinmiller, robinmiller

FourthWorld
VIP Livecode Opensource Backer
VIP Livecode Opensource Backer
Posts: 8322
Joined: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:05 am
Location: Los Angeles
Contact:

Re: Stencyl

Post by FourthWorld » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:05 pm

jiml wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:28 pm
Richard wrote:
This is where LC could shine: Imagine a point-and-click system in layers, which eventually arrives at full scripting.
Imagine an authoring tool with 5 levels of power that defaulted to easiest, most basic level, allowing you to progress through that power and complexity at your own pace. You could call it HyperCard. That might have some success in the educational market. ;)
Yes, the broad notion of "levels" goes back to the foundations of computing, and I certainly wouldn't claim to have invented it. HC's levels were mostly focused on abilities, or privileges, allowing ever deeper levels of modification. In that sense we could look to Unix permissions as the original model that inspired it.

The form of levels I'm sketching out is more fundamental. Privileges are just a part of it. More salient is that the entire UI transforms at different levels. In that sense it may be more like game levels, but even a step further, in which different levels move you not just to a different layout, but to an entirely different game.

The lower levels are very Scratch-like, moving up to things similar to HC's "Authoring" level, eventually arriving in fully-open LiveCode.
Richard Gaskin
Community volunteer LiveCode Community Liaison

LiveCode development, training, and consulting services: Fourth World Systems: http://FourthWorld.com
LiveCode User Group on Facebook : http://FaceBook.com/groups/LiveCodeUsers/

richmond62
Livecode Opensource Backer
Livecode Opensource Backer
Posts: 5269
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:17 am
Location: Bulgaria

Re: Stencyl

Post by richmond62 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:24 pm

If you know of any relevant grants or other potential funding sources please let me know.
I really wonder whether a grant-aiding body would underwrite a private company.

FourthWorld
VIP Livecode Opensource Backer
VIP Livecode Opensource Backer
Posts: 8322
Joined: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:05 am
Location: Los Angeles
Contact:

Re: Stencyl

Post by FourthWorld » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:53 pm

The first paid project I ever did was funded by a grant (from the US Department of Energy).

When nonprofits need support services, they often employ for-profit vendors to supply them.

And not all grants come from nonprofits.

Funding is a diverse world.
Richard Gaskin
Community volunteer LiveCode Community Liaison

LiveCode development, training, and consulting services: Fourth World Systems: http://FourthWorld.com
LiveCode User Group on Facebook : http://FaceBook.com/groups/LiveCodeUsers/

jiml
Posts: 234
Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:27 am
Location: Los Angeles

Re: Stencyl

Post by jiml » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:31 pm

Richard,

Your idea of 'game-ifying' programming is very intriguing!
'A spoonful of sugar' hook for students.

JimL

richmond62
Livecode Opensource Backer
Livecode Opensource Backer
Posts: 5269
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:17 am
Location: Bulgaria

Re: Stencyl

Post by richmond62 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:43 pm

Richard,
as in "Gaskin" or in 'getting Richmond's name wrong'?

JackieBlue1970
Posts: 64
Joined: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:28 pm
Location: Max Meadows, VA USA

Re: Stencyl

Post by JackieBlue1970 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:40 pm

Honestly the tool or code doesn't matter. It is the ability to take the tools available and apply them to solve problems. I don't think that is going to change anytime soon.

FourthWorld
VIP Livecode Opensource Backer
VIP Livecode Opensource Backer
Posts: 8322
Joined: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:05 am
Location: Los Angeles
Contact:

Re: Stencyl

Post by FourthWorld » Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:39 am

"You cannot change how someone thinks, but you can give them a tool to use which will lead them to think differently."
- R. Buckminster Fuller
Richard Gaskin
Community volunteer LiveCode Community Liaison

LiveCode development, training, and consulting services: Fourth World Systems: http://FourthWorld.com
LiveCode User Group on Facebook : http://FaceBook.com/groups/LiveCodeUsers/

richmond62
Livecode Opensource Backer
Livecode Opensource Backer
Posts: 5269
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:17 am
Location: Bulgaria

Re: Stencyl

Post by richmond62 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:18 am

FourthWorld wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:39 am
"You cannot change how someone thinks, but you can give them a tool to use which will lead them to think differently."
- R. Buckminster Fuller
However, there are a lot of people who accept things at face value and do not think at all
(if by 'think' we mean question and analyse).

I teach English as a Foreign Language in a private setting parallel to a school setting where 'learning'
is seen as the ability to memorise factoids and regurgitate them in exams. This not only does not
involve thinking, it stops thinking.

As far as I am concerned anything (so long as it is not illegal, immoral or harmful in some other way)
that 'pricks' the brain/mind/soul (वुदिधहमनस् अहंकर ) to think has to be good.

Post Reply

Return to “Off-Topic”