Wait...WHAT?!?

[bogs]

...'no code' IDEs/platforms out there...

The comments were illuminating.

Yes, I especially found this one to be quite funny (emphasis mine)...

I've worked at companies that successfully used Excel as an interface but only as a shallow front with all the business logic in a back end written in a real programming language (not VB). RAD tools are great for small, quick and dirty programs but can't do abstractions and generalisations well or at all. "Real" programming excel at abstractions, generalisations and compartmentalisation because over time, that is what matters.

Considering how many business grade applications were written solely in VB, I wonder why it would be denegrated in any conversation haha. The last bit of that quote really makes me wonder what the heck he is on about. I begin to think about his 5 cup of gin

Talk about snooty

[richmond62]

"Talk about snooty"

Come on, bogs, we all know that the only real programming is done by over-weight men with lupus
on blind terminals in rooms with no windows.

I have even heard people talk about something called a "gooey" as if it is somehow respectable: sounds like a sticky bun to me.

[SparkOut]

Yeah there are some partisan people about for sure. It can be the same with Mac/Windows/Linux, and a bunch of other polarized groups that I mentioned then deleted because this shouldn't be about confrontation or political struppagens.

[FourthWorld]

The VPL/"no code" vs coding debate is a lot like comparing FileMaker to LiveCode:

Where FileMaker does what you want, attempting to replicate that in LiveCode will almost always cost more.

But the moment you need something outside of what FileMaker is designed for, it's difficult or impossible to try to get it happening there, but could likely be done in LiveCode.

Any system composed of prefabricated components will express the constraints of those components.

Use what works for the task at hand.