The death of grass?

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Re: The death of grass?

Post by SparkOut » Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:31 am

Hermann does some amazing things with numbers. (Which he will, no doubt, say is not amazing but only applying some basic mathematics.) Well, it's impressive, anyway.
For me, I still look at the forum several times dsily, but usually only have a phone to access. Therefore I am still ready to help but it's much harder to be as prolific as I was, since I often can't look up or test something or write any code at all, or even just get a reply out like this on phone keyboard.

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Re: The death of grass?

Post by richmond62 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:27 pm

Doesn't look that encouraging:
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Re: The death of grass?

Post by LCMark » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:21 pm

The use-list membership has been declining for years - this is not surprising as the 'majority' of people these days prefer forums to mailing lists and there has been a gradual shift from membership of one to the other.

This isn't just a LiveCode thing, but a general thing - mailing lists are a 'dying art'.

So whilst the numbers are 'interesting' I really don't think they indicate anything (encouraging or otherwise).

What is encouraging, however, is that the forum membership stands at 120,000+ - which is at least 10x (if not 20x!) as many people that were ever subscribed to the use-list...

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Re: The death of grass?

Post by dunbarx » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:48 pm

Bogsie.

As Klaus implied (and he is not even American) even the innocent risk being taken to task. :wink:

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Re: The death of grass?

Post by Klaus » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:12 pm

I really wrote that? :shock:

But I have absolutely no idea what that means!? :D

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Re: The death of grass?

Post by sphere » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:50 pm

hahaha i'm 2 times in the first list and one time in the second, and of now a proud member of the "Hard Core Koo Koo Knutz"

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Re: The death of grass?

Post by bogs » Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:55 pm

dunbarx wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:48 pm
As Klaus implied (and he is not even American) even the innocent risk being taken to task. :wink:
Hee hee, are you implying I'm innocent ? How sweet of you :twisted:
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Re: The death of grass?

Post by mwieder » Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:52 am

@LCMark- I don't think "membership" numbers are a good way to compare apples and oranges.

AFAICT there's no way to unsubscribe once you're registered an account here. So if someone registers, posts once, and never returns that counts the same as someone (I'm looking at you, Klaus) who has posted more than 11k times. The membership numbers are therefore akin to a fairly meaningless count of web visitors.

Regarding the use-list, there's a link to unsubscribe at the bottom of the emails, so that's taken care of. But as far as dwindling use-list numbers, users have to know it exists in order to get to it. And there's no mention of it here. That coupled with the fact that the mailman listserv software is out of date and not searchable without resorting to nabble or mailarchive and doesn't support attachments.

if you know what you're looking for and when it appeared you can try this:
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/
mail-archive is searchable and easier to use:
https://www.mail-archive.com/use-liveco ... unrev.com/

I rarely poke my nose in here, and when I do I often can't find discussions I posted to previously or decide where in the multitude of options there would be interesting discussions.

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Re: The death of grass?

Post by bogs » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:06 am

I rarely poke my nose in here, and when I do I often can't find discussions I posted to previously or decide where in the multitude of options there would be interesting discussions.
You know, I've heard that said before, and I'm not sure why it would be so difficult to locate. Just in case anyone else is having this issue, you can click on the 'Quick Links' button in the top left of the page, and then click on "Your Posts".
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'Dis must be da place....
This brings you too, by default, a listing of your posts in reverse chronological order (or newest to oldest :P ). You can also search within that list, as opposed to a search of the whole forum.
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...I been a searchin....searchin....searchin every week away-ay-ay....
As for how to tell which topic might be interesting to you, I don't see how it is any different here than on a use list, but you can certainly scan a list of all posts that are either New, Unread (by you), Unanswered, or currently Active.

I find all topics to be of at least passing curiosity, so I use a reader to let me know when something pops up, which is akin to having your email slammed on a busy use-list day (but easier to dispose of) :twisted:
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Re: The death of grass?

Post by dunbarx » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:09 pm

Klaus.
But I have absolutely no idea what that means!?
Off in the weeds we are, but what did you mean then, when you said:
"Hardcore KKK", what a brilliant idea!
I thought you were being sarcastic, in that "KKK" was proposed at all. That is why I mentioned the innocent here (all of us), but implied that those three capitalized letters, at least in the United States, have a meaning all their own. :wink:

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Re: The death of grass?

Post by Klaus » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:37 pm

I know more about the US of A and its customs and traditions than you might imagine! 8)
Maybe you missed my -> :-D right after "... what a brilliant idea!"

I know of course that KKK stands for the "Klan" and the actual origin of the saying "America first!"

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Re: The death of grass?

Post by sphere » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:30 pm

mwieder wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:52 am
AFAICT there's no way to unsubscribe once you're registered an account here.
That's not even according the rules of GDPR either. A person should always be able Close his/her account.

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Re: The death of grass?

Post by FourthWorld » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:52 pm

sphere wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:30 pm
mwieder wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:52 am
AFAICT there's no way to unsubscribe once you're registered an account here.
That's not even according the rules of GDPR either. A person should always be able Close his/her account.
I don't know whether PHPBB allows an option for subscribers to be "forgotten", but anyone interested in that can drop me a note and I can remove all trace of their account.
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Re: The death of grass?

Post by richmond62 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:28 pm

anyone interested
Aiblins.

But those who have posted for a while and moved on probably cannot be bothered.

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Re: The death of grass?

Post by FourthWorld » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:00 pm

richmond62 wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:28 pm
anyone interested
Aiblins.

But those who have posted for a while and moved on probably cannot be bothered.
If no interest is expressed then no action need be taken.
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