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Unicode functionality and operating systems.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:38 am
by richmond62
I assume (?) that LiveCode 9.0 will cope with the
additions in the upcoming Unicode version (12):

http://unicode.org/versions/Unicode12.0.0/

as I, for one, will be attempting to lever some of these:
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Nandin.png
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Nandinagari font.

https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17162-nandinagari.pdf

https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/Unic ... -119A0.pdf
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Now, a while ago . . . it was suggested that at least part of the
reason LiveCode was unable to display some Unicode glyphs was down to
the operating system on which the stack was being deployed.

I would be extremely grateful if anyone could give me some
pointers on how to determine whether the fault lies in LiveCode,
the operating system it is being deployed on, or both.

Re: Unicode functionality and operating systems.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:58 am
by bogs
For the answers to these and many other questions, well, you and I will have to wait till someone who knows comes in :wink:

But I was wondering why this is off topic myself, since it is very much related to things in Lc (the 1st part pertaining to the future of Lc), to me, it seems very much on topic, the 2nd part certainly pertains to the present.

Re: Unicode functionality and operating systems.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:27 pm
by richmond62
I was wondering why this is off topic
Because apart from myself there does not seem to be much attention
being paid to the topic of Unicode parity.

Qhilk, considering all the "heavy lifting" done by the good folk at Edinburgh Central
to get all "that Unicode stuff" rolled into LiveCode seems odd; especially as having "all that stuff"
LiveCode has become a very powerful tool in "them thar hills"; the hills of polyglot
research, record-keeping and so on.
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Re: Unicode functionality and operating systems.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:34 pm
by richmond62
Or, even more to the point:
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AsterixHindi.jpg
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Look at that shockingly badly rendered conjuct consonant!
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Needless to say . . . the only motivating factor for my Devawriter Pro is to help translate
Asterix into Hindi and Sanskrit. 8)

Re: Unicode functionality and operating systems.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:47 pm
by Thierry
richmond62 wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:34 pm
Or, even more to the point:
the only motivating factor for my Devawriter Pro is to help translate
Asterix into Hindi and Sanskrit. 8)
Hi Richmond,

May be that you find some more inspiration with
this 50 years birthday of Asterix in my country:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ty8hWoacZo

Have fun :)

Re: Unicode functionality and operating systems.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:20 pm
by Klaus
Bonsoir Thierry,

although I consider this a (well done) fake, it looks cool! :-)
But why does "Colonel William Kurtz" (Apocalypse Now!) appear in the credits?! :shock:


Best

Klaus

Re: Unicode functionality and operating systems.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:15 pm
by Thierry
Klaus wrote: although I consider this a (well done) fake, it looks cool! :-)
You're too clever Klaus 8)
But why does "Colonel William Kurtz" (Apocalypse Now!) appear in the credits?! :shock:
Sorry, no idea;, ask e-mediapublishing... :wink:


Wish you a nice Rosenmontag, Karnevalsdienstag und Aschermittwoch :)

Kind regards,

Thierry

Re: Unicode functionality and operating systems.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:22 pm
by Klaus
Merci, mon ami!

But "Karneval" is not my "cup of tea".
Ordered/forced cheerfullness for a week?
Sir, no, Sir! I am crazy throughout the whole year! :-)

Re: Unicode functionality and operating systems.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:26 pm
by Thierry
Klaus wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:22 pm
Merci, mon ami!

But "Karneval" is not my "cup of tea".
Ordered/forced cheerfullness for a week?
Sir, no, Sir! I am crazy throughout the whole year! :-)
LOL :)
I've been myself once in Koln, and never again.
But I know so many relatives and friends enjoying it.... :)

Thierry

Re: Unicode functionality and operating systems.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:36 pm
by Thierry
richmond62 wrote: I would be extremely grateful if anyone could give me some
pointers on how to determine whether the fault lies in LiveCode,
the operating system it is being deployed on, or both.
Hi Richmond,

My guess is that libICU (unicode library) needs to be updated in Livecode core.

I believe one could find on gihub/livecode which version they are using...

Otherwise, no, you're not alone working with Unicode :)

Regards,

Thierry

Re: Unicode functionality and operating systems.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:06 pm
by Klaus
Thierry wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:26 pm
Klaus wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:22 pm
Merci, mon ami!

But "Karneval" is not my "cup of tea".
Ordered/forced cheerfullness for a week?
Sir, no, Sir! I am crazy throughout the whole year! :-)
LOL :)
I've been myself once in Koln, and never again.
But I know so many relatives and friends enjoying it.... :)

Thierry
Yeah, if you are not a "hardcore" fan, it is hell on earth!
Been there, done that! :D

Re: Unicode functionality and operating systems.

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:22 pm
by richmond62
libICU (unicode library) needs to be updated in Livecode core
I'm not going to pretend to understand these things,
but something I do understand is dates, and this:

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/bl ... libicu.gyp

has a date of Jun 26, 2018

while this: http://site.icu-project.org/home

has the ICU for Unicode 12 with a date of January 1, 2019

However, I wonder if this is the problem as I was able to display glyphs that are included in the
as yet unreleased Unicode 12 standard perfectly well with LiveCode 9 on macOS 10.14.

The problem that I am referring to is that certain, apparently random,
glyphs do just not render properly, appearing as the 'null' character.