Announcing Xavvi, a Great Leap Forward for App Building

[paul@researchware.com]

The other area that there has been a few legals cases around has been instances where someone has tried to copyright ot patent something generated by an AI in the name of the AI (vs a person or persons). The rling hae consistantly rules that a Patent or Copyright can't be in the AI's "name" bt mst be by people.

I think that makes sense - the patent or copyright should be in the name or names of the people who made and/or trained the AI rather than the AI itself. It would be like someone writing a Livecode app and then tryng to copyright the App with the author being "Livecode" (the tool).

If someone tells an AI generate a new drug candidate to treat disease X and it does, I think it's still the person who entered the request for the new drug candidate or the people who trained it to find new drugs that deserve the patent or copyright.

[Francesco77]

Of all the different software development systems I've used over the past 30 years, LiveCode is definitely the only one that periodically asks for more money.

I mean, if someone had such a great business idea, surely investors should be found to fund it. Even without begging from users on a regular basis.

As for AI, it's the most fascinating and dangerous thing that's ever happened in the digital world.

We will (hopefully) all see what happens.

[paul@researchware.com]

I mean, if someone had such a great business idea, surely investors should be found to fund it. Even without begging from users on a regular basis.

If you have every contributed to a Livecode crowdfunding effort, then you ARE an investor. You are either getting product, services, or something as the return on your investment (with some eceptions where people simply contributed for no reward or downstream enhancement to the product). Whether that return was worth the investment or not is a consideration every investor has to make on each investment as it develops.

[richmond62]

then you ARE an investor

Then it is 'funny' that people are not made to feel that.

[richmond62]

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Well, in spite of my fairly cynical nature, at this moment all I can do is say "Well Done LiveCode."

AND, of course, see what materialises.

[HenryDi]

Honestly, after all the license changes in Livecode, I don't feel like burning or investing money again. I'll wait until 2024 and see how far the platform is developed.

[joseggarza]

Hi dear friends...

I would like to share this reflection from a student of mine whom I teach LiveCode.

He is 13 years old and very intelligent (a genius! ) and sometimes comes to this forum as a guest to
understand the language better and to experiment.

Yesterday, he saw that there is persistent talk about Xavvi on the site and said to me (I summarize his thoughts):

"Teacher, it seems useless to me to keep learning LC, in a few months you will ask
Xavvi to make an app and he will make it. Our jobs cannot compete
with those generated and powered by AI, so probably, only those who will not
will have the money for the professional subscription (and he was referring to me! ) will write themselves
bad code on their own ."

I add another thought that I thought was interesting (I always summarize his speech):

"Moreover, the figure of the programmer, who used to be a 'wizard', is now outdated instead. With Xaavi, there is no need for that wonderful 'understandable' language to teach us, because who cares about language? " And then, which seems even more interesting to me, "Why, since Xavvi has artificial intelligence, couldn't I "save as" in other languages like Python as well?"
And I conclude, "Lc is committing suicide since its strength, which is the human programming language, is delegated to a machine that generates code for humans (who will no longer care about the code)."

To me, frankly, this new swerve debases all the promises that were made for LC 10, including even that willingness to make the "exe" safer, smaller and less decompilable.
Xavvi will make LC worse than the name it has when I talk to other teachers "Ah! LC!, But it's not a language! It's a toy!" and now they will say "Ah, you did this in LC! ChatGPT made it for you! Ah ah! But I did it in Python always with the help of ChatGPT!".

Sorry, I'm depressed... and then the marketing style chosen for Xaavi, with all due respect and affection, seems to me that of the pot seller... and after a few days of pushing... here it comes that if Xaavi doesn't make money everything will fail!

In short ... as always thank you all and I greet the little genius who will surely read these lines and be happy. But my dear student...I read a lot of science fiction as a girl and believe me, never trust the machines, always keep yourself in control because the end is always to get crushed by the gears...or worse...to be part of them!

Un bacio grande a tutti...I feel useless...both as an aspiring programmer and as a teacher to children...

Mariasole
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In life, science and knowledge are built block by block. Nothing can be created with the snap of a finger. I remember 40 years ago, they said the same about calculators. Nowadays, children no longer use simple calculators; they use scientific calculators. Thanks to these advancements, many children are already exposed to calculus in high school at a young age. There's no reason to be afraid of science; instead, we should use it for the greater good and create a new block of intelligence.

Jose Garza