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32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:26 pm
by richmond62
So, here I am being either:

1. A clever chap at the cutting edge of technology,

or

2. A right silly bugger.

[Or, most probably, both]

and, on my 2018 MacMini running MacOS 10.14.3 beta 4, opening LC 8.1.10 this morning I got this:
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which means I have found ANOTHER reason to revert to my 2006 iMac running MacOS 10.7
for quite a lot of my work.

I currently deploy a 2006 Mac Mini running MacOS 10.6 as I use Bryce 7,
Appleworks and quite a few other PPC bits of software.

I use a 2006 Mac Mini running 10.7 for Versions of RunRev/Livecode from 4.0 to 8.1.10.

I use a G4 Mac Mini running MacOS 10.4 and "Classic" for HyperCard and so on.
I use a G5 iMac for the same thing, but in my school rather than at home.
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This picture is completely irrelevant to what I wrote above:
but posting it here made me feel better and suppress the urge
to jump on a plane to California and biff Tim Cook on the nose.

Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:14 pm
by richmond62
http://osxdaily.com/2018/04/04/run-64-bit-mode-mac-os/

Whether MacOS 10.14.3 has "suddenly" gone 64-bit-only (because 10.14.2 was not) or not,
I don't know (and if it has, that seems a bit sneaky and underhand), or whether I, in a fit
of unlikely brilliance, have turned off 32-bit capability we have to see.

So, at the risk of looking an "even greater prune" than i do already,
I'm going to try that recipe reffed at the top of this posting.

Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:16 pm
by richmond62
Aha . . .

LiveCode 8.1.10 DOES work, but probably in some sort of sub-optimal way.

Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:56 pm
by richmond62
From a selfish point of view this means I am going to have to continue developing my Devawriter Pro app
on older software with LC 8.1.10 and then transfer the stack over to my Mojave box to hive off 64-bit standalone builds for Mac.

I wonder how (?) LC 9 and up will cope with building 32-bit Windows and Linux builds on
64-bit only Macintosh computers?

Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:50 pm
by jacque
The dialog is just a warning and LC will work normally. It's just telling you that things may change in the future.

Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:10 pm
by bogs
Well thats no fun, where is the surprise if they warn you ahead of time? :lol:

P.S., I loved the Archies, and really liked the song "Sugar sugar"

Boy that brings back memories <sigh>Image

Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:42 pm
by richmond62
Oddly enough, I was introduced to the Archie comics by my good friend Charles Singh
when we were sharing a house in Al Ain, UAE; he, having been brought up with English
as his first language in India had access to them; while I, growing up with English as one
of my 2 first languages in Britain, did not.

Mind you, Charles was not exposed to the "improving influence" of the Broons:
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Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:22 pm
by bogs
The only British humor I got in comic form was Andy Capp
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Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 8:54 am
by richmond62
Andy Capp was English, the Broons are Scots, and I often wonder what the word "British" means.

Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:25 am
by bogs
Well gee Mr. Wizard, that ain't no challenge to find out, any free dictionary could tell you :P
The Free Dictionary wrote: Brit·ish (brĭt′ĭsh)
adj.
1.
a. Of or relating to Great Britain or its people, language, or culture.
b. Of or relating to the United Kingdom or the Commonwealth of Nations.
2. Of or relating to the ancient Britons.
*Edit - I should point out that for clarification, 'Great Britain' refers most often to the political definition -
Wikipedia wrote: Politically, Great Britain refers to the whole of England, Scotland and Wales in combination,[41] but not Northern Ireland;

Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 6:54 pm
by richmond62
OK: but what I was referring to was "British humor" . . .

For starters "British humour" might have been closer.

But the idea of "British humour" is odd, as Scots humour, Welsh humour and English humour are quite distinct from one another.

Here's an example of a joke that Scots will find funny, but English people will not:

I'd be a racist if I thought English people were human.

English jokes are full of references to "Taffy" (English, racist name for generic Welshman), "Jock" (English, racist name for generic Scots), and
"Mick" (English, racist name for generic Irishman) . . . and that coarse gowk that wrote that dictionary, Samuel Johnson started things by
describing oats as something that a Scot eats and an Englishman feeds to his horse.

And, of course, a lot of jokes hinge on language: an Englishman would not understand this:

I rode my bike to the footie match, and could not sit down for a week for the bites.

Ah tak ma bike til the match, and couldnae sit doun fae a sennicht as ma dowp wis that sair fae the bites.

Because in English "bike" does not have 2 meanings.
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Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 7:15 pm
by bogs
richmond62 wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 6:54 pm
For starters "British humour" might have been closer.
Not likely though, as it is someone not from Britain making the reference, and who doesn't (normally) include the letter 'u' in various words not used in his native tongue, i.e. 'colour', 'humour', etc., as well as for the points you are referencing. A native of England might say it that way, however they might just as well not in an attempt to be more precise.

I guess this is another "you've got too much time on your hands" day, because as well informed as you are about languages, I'm sure you know all this already :P

Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 7:16 pm
by richmond62
Cripes, man: I was only pulling your leg. :D

Re: 32 bites and a sore finger

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 7:46 pm
by bogs
Aye, and I was just throwing a spanner in your spokes :P