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Setting up in shared host environment (Dreamhost)

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:45 am
by thatkeith
I have a web host account at Dreamhost, and I’d like to get LC Server set up. I won’t be able to alter Apache of course, but it seems possible to do this with just the standard level of control. But the posts about this are 11 years and MANY versions old – are there instructions anywhere that are relatively up to date and don’t assume the user has full and solo control over Apache?

Re: Setting up in shared host environment (Dreamhost)

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:28 pm
by ghettocottage
How married are you to Dreamhost? It is probably possible to get LC working, but using a VPS from somewhere like DigitalOcean or Linode is a little better for doing things like this, although initial setup is a little more complicated since you have to install from scratch.

However, once you have it going, you have complete control and can do all the things and then some.

If you need to stick with DreamHost, then I saw this article:
https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/art ... I-overview

Re: Setting up in shared host environment (Dreamhost)

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:04 pm
by FourthWorld
@thatkeith: which tutorial did you try and how far did you get? Configurations change somewhat over time, but not dramatically with Linux. Most tutorials on using .htaccess for CGIs like LiveCode Server will still work well even if they were written many years ago.

@ghettocottage: I'm a big fan of VPSes myself, but I still use shared hosts for some sites and can appreciate the role of managed services for developers. I do enough client-server apps that it's been well worth the investment learning how to harden and maintain a Linux server, but for low-traffic sites where security needs are minimal shared hosting (well configured and managed, as Dreamhost's is) at least lets others be the system admins while the developer gets to focus solely on development. Not ideal perhaps, and not at all suitable for many sites, but a good-enough solution that closes an otherwise-large skills gap in Linux system admin.

Re: Setting up in shared host environment (Dreamhost)

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:25 pm
by ghettocottage
@FourthWorld you are right! I just wanted to point it out as an option.

I used to use DreamHost quite a bit, but once I discovered how to use a VPS it dramatically changed how I set up projects. I wish someone had mentioned the possibility to me earlier in my life.