Web Demo

[jeffpk]

I'm considering LiveCode for a major web-interface project.

Is there somewhere I can go on the web to see demoes of web-interfaces done with LiveCode?

[TheCore]

Well.. nope.

[bangkok]

I'm considering LiveCode for a major web-interface project.

You mean : using the "web plugin" of LiveCode or using LiveCode server ?

[TheCore]

You mean : using the "web plugin" of LiveCode or using LiveCode server ?

I was looking at this guy's request as I'm in that position my selfe. I'm twisting my thumbs and evaluating Livecode for a major site trading with digital goods like 3d models and such resources. So fare the project has been on for 2 years under php and mysql - on shared hosts for testing and development. Time to get serious so to speak, and I did a check/try with REALBasic's webedition, and it failed big time (too new, too many bugs and not ready for site-building, just web-apps). Former Hypercard was my favorite 25 years ago, so I'm leaning to it kind of.

Now we have set up a local server based on Apples OSX Server software and are ready to put it all together. But even if I have choosen php, I have this urge to look on other options. As for Livecode, I'm curious about runrevs server and like to test this with livecode tech. But there are so few references to find, and the Server is not yet in first realease. My project involves a lot of uploads and downloads - and a payment gateway (PayPal). I see this works fine with Livecode. It's those file-up and file-down I worry about, and the Livecode capabilities with MySQL.

Anyone who could put light on these issues? Will Livecode do the job? Is the server a good choice? Any point of view are most welcome. Just want to now before I invest $2000 on the full package.

[bangkok]

So fare the project has been on for 2 years under php and mysql - on shared hosts for testing and development. Time to get serious so to speak, and I did a check/try with REALBasic's webedition, and it failed big time (too new, too many bugs and not ready for site-building, just web-apps). Former Hypercard was my favorite 25 years ago, so I'm leaning to it kind of.

Now we have set up a local server based on Apples OSX Server software and are ready to put it all together. But even if I have choosen php, I have this urge to look on other options. As for Livecode, I'm curious about runrevs server and like to test this with livecode tech. But there are so few references to find, and the Server is not yet in first realease. My project involves a lot of uploads and downloads - and a payment gateway (PayPal). I see this works fine with Livecode. It's those file-up and file-down I worry about, and the Livecode capabilities with MySQL.

Anyone who could put light on these issues? Will Livecode do the job? Is the server a good choice? Any point of view are most welcome. Just want to now before I invest $2000 on the full package.

Ok, now it's clearer.

Forget the web plugin.

As for LiveCode Server, now we're talking...

Yes it's true, this product is still in "alpha" stage.... However, it's working.... and pretty well from my point of view.

I use it in 2 forms :

-an account on On Rev (my with MySQL)
-an installation on a VPS (Linux, Debian) server (with MySQL)

I've tried it also on a local network, with Ubuntu.

My only problems : to solve the issue of the missing libraries (pain in the xxxx with the Debian 64 bits, anyway).

The bottom line is : it works. And it works good.

I didn't loose time to learn PHP.

If your only worry is about RevServer and MySQL... then you shouldn't. The link with MySQL is as smooth as LiveCode desktop can be. A breeze.

As for the files upload, I can't say. For uploading files, I use directly frontends made with LiveCode Desktop.

I sent several messages to RunRev to tell them that they should "push" LiveCode Server, because it's a great product. And that they should (in a way) propose an evaluation version.

My only regret : this product is still in a way "confidential"... So we don't have enough feedbacks... and we miss benchmarks compared with PHP (as far as performances are concerned, stress tests etc.)

But again : within a small corporate environnement, LiveCode Server for me is a winning solution. Definitely.

I really do hope that RunRev will push this product . It deserves the day light.

[mhoneywill]

No expert with this but you might want to look at Revigniter http://revigniter.com/

Its an area I'm interested in so It would be good to hear how you get on.

Bangkonk may be able to shed some light on this, I'm not sure how the debugging environment works when you are not using on.rev as a host?

[TheCore]

Ok, now it's clearer.
Forget the web plugin.
As for LiveCode Server, now we're talking...
Yes it's true, this product is still in "alpha" stage.... However, it's working.... and pretty well from my point of view.
I use it in 2 forms :
-an account on On Rev (my with MySQL)
-an installation on a VPS (Linux, Debian) server (with MySQL)
I've tried it also on a local network, with Ubuntu.
My only problems : to solve the issue of the missing libraries (pain in the xxxx with the Debian 64 bits, anyway).
The bottom line is : it works. And it works good.
I didn't loose time to learn PHP.
If your only worry is about RevServer and MySQL... then you shouldn't. The link with MySQL is as smooth as LiveCode desktop can be. A breeze.
As for the files upload, I can't say. For uploading files, I use directly frontends made with LiveCode Desktop.
I sent several messages to RunRev to tell them that they should "push" LiveCode Server, because it's a great product. And that they should (in a way) propose an evaluation version.
My only regret : this product is still in a way "confidential"... So we don't have enough feedbacks... and we miss benchmarks compared with PHP (as far as performances are concerned, stress tests etc.)
But again : within a small corporate environnement, LiveCode Server for me is a winning solution. Definitely.
I really do hope that RunRev will push this product . It deserves the day light.

Thanks a lot for your feedback. It cleared out some questions I had, especially around the server and MySQL. I worked on this project for 2 years and have tested EVERYTHING. I'm good with PHP, but that is just half the way anyway, cause you also need AJAX, Javascript, HTML and so on. It's a big mess really, and a lot to learn. In 2009 I tested Runtime Revelution (studio version) and it has been in my head since. I just loved it. The Server wasn't really up and running at that time, just the plug-in and hosting option at OnRev. Now I see it is.

Yes, there should have been an evaluation version, especially as it is in "alpha" stage. That would put developers like me in a position to try things out, and tasting is an addictive thing.

When I put your words up on my 27" I can't move on with my project without testing this environment. So I will get my hand on the server and some more. Think I saw a $750 offer for the full package including the server in my email some days back, so I guess I go for that. I also looked around the forums and see much I like.

Again, thanks for the advice. If the server works well with MySQL I have no arguments to not test this out. I surely will!


@mhoneywill
I will indeed check out revIgniter. Very interesting and woah - thats what I call documentation. Somebody is doing a good job!!