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- Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:14 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
There are a number of interesting pricing structures out there. One I like and mentioned previously is the one used by Parorama DB: http://www.provue.com/#pricing This strikes me as a) much fairer, b) could be applied to 'internal users' and developers and c) would, in my inexpert opinion, be more ...
- Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:10 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
Thank you, Kevin. That letter does clarify some of the important details. I have three areas of questions that continue to flow into my In Box: 1. Financial reporting: this is a non-starter for many, but perhaps they are misinterpreting. Could there be a section in the FAQ or other place new prospe...
- Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:05 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
Thanks for writing and posting this Kevin, and for the links to more details on LC 'Create' that it contained. Also, thank you for all of your years of dedication in keeping LiveCode (and xTalk scripting in general) alive and kicking! Sleeping at your parent's and all of that, now that IS some dedi...
- Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:03 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
I have a feeling (a hope?) that people like cmhjon (and myself) will find that in the end this will not be a financial deal killer. I believe that Kevin fully understands the personal/semi-personal use cases, and will not dismay that group. That such a group exists at all is, I bet, unique to LC. T...
- Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:40 am
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
Some of you will have seen this as it went out by email yesterday. However I know for whatever reason not all of you get our emails so I’m going to post this here for those that haven’t seen it. I think it’s important to set the record straight. https://livecode.com/an-open-letter-to-the-community/ ...
- Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:39 am
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
Now you're going to tell me that the NHS has no money and it wouldn't work there - but honestly the Classic licensing model doesn't work there either! They aren't paying your license fee. And you can still create these apps in your own time in the new model. Not sure if you're aware of how NHS serv...
- Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:38 am
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
The link above is especially helpful and fully addresses my concerns and questions - the addition of this is very much appreciated. As others mentioned above, definitions were initially a bit opaque. It would also be very helpful if the specific use-cases mentioned are actually listed under each li...
- Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:31 am
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
I reached out to LC for clarification on my situation. As I have only written apps for my co-workers and make no money on them, the plan that would fit my situation is the "App Payments" option. According to LC, I would only have to pay the early developer license. In the event that I start selling...
- Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:29 am
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
All becoming clearer. Two further questions. Internal Apps. 1. If I build an exe for the company I work for, does this exe become non working if after a period of time the company decides to stop yearly payments? 2. If the company decides that the exe requires no further maintenance and therefore n...
- Thu Aug 01, 2024 7:52 am
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
Does that mean that licensers of CREATE will not have to have any software installed on their computers? Thats correct for Create Cloud. It's 100% web and cloud based. If you want to create native apps, Create Native installs on the desktop and builds for desktop & mobile. Create Universal includes...
- Wed Jul 31, 2024 5:07 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
LiveCode has implemented a wide variety of licensing schemes in the years I've been a user. Since I believe v2.7. And I cannot recall a single one that has not been the subject of controversy. I've seen people seemingly go out of their way to generate confusion and doubt where things were really no...
- Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:52 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
If I employ Richard to write an app for my workplace, I would expect to pay a fee for a scoping exercise, a development fee and a maintenance fee for ongoing care (or some other equivalent process). However now, I and whoever else uses this app, will have to pay developer licences. Suddenly Richard...
- Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:31 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
I was Manager Licensing and Procurement for a large Australian University before retiring and I can say that this licensing model for such a product as LC would not get a look in. Certainly a per seat charge for users is fine, but having that charge the same as the development seat, no. Over 70% of...
- Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:26 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
1. What is the logic behind requiring a subscription ($440/year) for each user within my organisation who uses a standalone I create, when realistically the cost to each user if they were actually purchasing the standalone would hardly be a fraction of that? I really don't understand the logic here...
- Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:15 pm
- Forum: Talking LiveCode
- Topic: Livecode Create - thoughts?
- Replies: 125
- Views: 124537
Re: Livecode Create - thoughts?
I can see the need for change. No, I was not surprised to hear from KM that the product side of the business runs at a loss. But I reckon you really need to consider a grandfathering scheme for your loyal existing customers ! One where internal apps and utilities are Free to distribute. Additional ...