The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

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The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by kaveh1000 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:51 pm

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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by bogs » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:27 pm

That was pure awesome kaveh, thank you for making my day :D
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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by kaveh1000 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:44 pm

Always great to listen to Bill. Looks like I gave the wrong link by the way. The story about the Acid trip is around minute 22 here:

https://twit.tv/shows/triangulation/epi ... tart=false
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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by bogs » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:59 pm

Nope, link you put got me right to it :D
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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by ClipArtGuy » Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:12 am

Thanks for this. Posted the day after Bicycle Day too.... :wink:

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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by capellan » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:28 am

Hi All,

I suspect that previously we have discussed at length this same topic on the mail list
or this forum. In short, although Bill Atkinson attributes HyperCard to an acid trip,
the fact is that Apple have to pay royalties to Paul Heckel, the author of ZoomRacks:

https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classe ... nking.html
https://www.atarimagazines.com/startv2n3/hypercard.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoomracks
http://www.drdobbs.com/the-real-deal/184410352
https://apple.slashdot.org/story/01/03/ ... r-mac-os-x

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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by bogs » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:53 am

Ah Al, thank you for the memory (2nd link, zoomracks). I still have one of those Atari machines :oops: but no zoomracks on it :P
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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by capellan » Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:46 pm

Looks like Zoomracks is available on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOOMRACKS-Atar ... 3294701699

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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by jacque » Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:51 pm

The royalty payments have long since expired.
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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by bogs » Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:58 pm

Heh, good one :D
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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by richmond62 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:08 pm

although Bill Atkinson attributes HyperCard to an acid trip
That is just a bit of "colour", or, possibly in Bill Atkinson's case "color."

I have attributed great ideas I've had to dreams, divine revelation or
lying drunk in the bath: all far more interesting than just some idea
I had while I was staring mindlessly out of the window on the bus.

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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by capellan » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:15 pm

Bogs, Could you make a Zoomracks clone using LiveCode? :twisted:

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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by richmond62 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:32 pm

Here's a fairly good description of Zoomrack's functionality:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoomracks

and these let you see what the thing looked like:

http://www.page6.org/archive/issue_23/page_20.htm

http://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari ... 32046.html

and download the software: mind you, you'll be a bit stuck unless you can shoehorn it into
an emulator.
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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by bogs » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:40 pm

capellan wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:15 pm
Bogs, Could you make a Zoomracks clone using LiveCode? :twisted:
Heh, well, for a while I was making this...
Liverper-Card - Home Screen_001.png
Home screen...
Liverper-Card - Stack Kit_002.png
Stack kit...
Selection_003.png
Well, you know....
From what I read in the descriptions of it, it sounds pretty limited though. I'd be far more fascinated making an Mc clone on Squeak, whose vm's apparently run nearly anywhere I'd be working (but not mobile :P ).
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Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard

Post by richmond62 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:57 pm

for a while I was making this
I think I'll pop out and design something called a wheel.
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wheel.png
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While making clones of software items from the past may be quite instructive as a
learning process I'm sure that is about as far as these sort of things go.

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