tellboy wrote:All the best (and I mean it)
That IS now clear.
This thread drifted a bit in terms of its focus, and I am inclined to agree with the stuff about LiveCode's
advertising and its oddly confusing website.
I do think that if, now, rather than in 2001, I were looking for a programming package to develop
an educational CD-ROM about different Music genres (which IS how I stumbled on RunRev, having
found Metacard very awkward to use owing to its GUI), I wouldn't find out about LiveCode, and even
if I did I wouldn't really get much further than its website.
Queerly enough, this: https://web.archive.org/web/20010202051 ... unrev.com/
is less confusing than what is online currently. It may not have offered as much, but, at least one could get
to where one wanted relatively easily.
In Bulgaria, where I live and work, only ONE adult has heard of LiveCode [me].
The schools are torturing teenagers with PASCAL from 1985 (well, among all the other ways
they are torturing the kids), except at places such as the Mathematical Specialisation High Schools
where they are torturing them with C++.
The teachers who have to teach PASCAL hate it (can one wonder why?), and the kids they teach it to
hate it, and there goes a generation of talented kids down the pan.
When I have mentioned LiveCode to one or two school teachers they have politely looked at
passing pigeons and remarked about:
1. It not being a "mainstream" language. . . . is Turbo PASCAL from 1985 a mainstream language nowadays?
[When my kids had to do that stuff, as the school made them share 3 to a PC at school, I set up Free-DOS on a
Pentium I with PASCAL so they could at least do some homework that made sense: both of my boys said "F*ck it,
don't bother Dad" more times than I care to mention: and I agreed completely with them. The younger one had
already messed around with LiveCode, and he made the glaringly obvious point.]
2. They have never heard of it. Which is probably RunRev's fault.
3. The Ministry of Education says kids at 15 should learn PASCAL unless they do C++ at the Maths schools.
Now 90% of teachers in Bulgaria are, like teachers everywhere, "sheep"; underpaid and fed on a boring diet of grass -
well, very nearly. The people at the Ministry of Education are career politicians who know "sweet FA" about teaching
computer programming and how young minds work.
So, Why The "Fudge" isn't LiveCode doorstepping every Min. of Ed. in Europe (and elsewhere)?
Why don't I see LiveCode Community bundled on CDs on the extremely crappy Computer mags I see
every day as I pass the newspaper kiosks on my way to work? Along with a few introductory lessons?
Why isn't every other kid during the long, hot ,humid Summer, instead of being crouched over their PCs
playing online games, watching porn or faffing around endlessly with social media, not busy designing
little games they can exchange with their friends, and learning progging at the same time???
Because RunRev, while making a bloody good product, is bloody bad at pimping the thing!