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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by bogs » Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:09 pm

I looked at the file structure on my hard drive. :)
Ok, you got me there, I'd never have thought to look on your hard drive for it :P
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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by bogs » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:29 pm

Now that I have been looking at my own hard drive, I realize I have tons of icons from previous generations of programming. I did a quick search, and found all of them freely downloadable as well, so I've started organizing them and putting them on stacks, which I'll be setting up for use in Lc/Mc, both through the image library and as a plugin based (but not real fancy) image selector.

The question I have is, should I tack them onto this existing thread, as they are 'old fashion icons' but not related to Hypercard, or should I start a new thread for just old icons, possibly in the community projects section since any and all are invited to contribute their own hoards of icons?

Any suggestions or guidance would be appreciated :)
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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by jacque » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:46 pm

May as well put them here. They may not be HC icons but they aren't LC either.
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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by bogs » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:13 am

Yah, works for me. I'll start off by contributing some classic Delphi icons, 24x24, at the time considered pretty radical :)

They have been saved in 2.7 legacy, and work for sure with Lc 6.0.1 -> 8.1.6, someone that has older Lc versions would need to test for us to see if it works back farther.
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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by FourthWorld » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:42 am

How many images are on that card? LC 9 slows to a crawl on my 3.2 GHz Haswell box after opening it.
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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by bogs » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:01 pm

It does? Huh, there are only 204 images.
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I tested it like I say from Lc 6-8, nothing slowed down here, even in 8.1.6 (Linux). Curious, do you still have any earlier Lc's on the machine? Does it slow down there?

My machine is hardly a speedster, being an athlon 2 x3 3.2GHz. from 2010.

This does bring up another question I (& the rest of us) should probably know, is there some upper limit we should avoid in the number of icons in a particular libary? 100? 1000? Most of the libraries I have are under 500, but I certainly could break them down farther if that would cause issues for someone down the road.

*Edit - On this machine, I have an old Mac set with some 850 in it, and that also comes up fine (here), so I'm not sure.

*Edit 2 - I had just been finishing up some others I had laying around, I'll stick those up and, if changes are required, I'll make those and re-insert later.

One set is the classic delphi bmp format (mostly the same as above, but *does* have some different icons in it). I may just wind up converting them to png and combining the sets. The other is the classic windows icons, which probably run from win 3.x to 98. The last is my collection of B&W mac icons, although over the years I have probably gotten a few that were not, strictly speaking, mac icons but still fit that theme.

I had to upload that last set, as it is too large to put here at 852 images :(
Old Mac Icons <- let me know if any issues with downloading.
If someone hits an issue like Richard did, please let me know, because I am completely unable to reproduce it.
revLibClassic Delphi bmp 24.rev.zip
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revLibClassic Windows Hi-color.rev.zip
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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by bogs » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:21 pm

Just came across the rest of my (really really) old delphi icons, cursors, etc. I converted them from bmp to png, or from .ico to png, but there are some peculiarities specific to delphi images. I think a screenshot will show you what I mean better than my trying to explain it, but basically all these icons are 2 pictures in one. Anyone that used Delphi back in the day will remember the image lists and how they worked.
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revLibOldest Delphi Buttons.rev.zip
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I also managed to import some of the old splashes and backgrounds.
revLibDelphi Backgrounds.rev.zip
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The last would be the cursors.
revLibClassic Delphi Cursors.rev.zip
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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by mluka » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:22 pm

Hi Jacqueline.

Thanks for making these available.

They have a white background. Do you know if there is any way to use them without the white background?

Thanks.
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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by bogs » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:59 pm

Well, one really low tech way would be to put it into a paint program, and delete the white parts, then save it out as a png file.

I am sure I read of a way to code setting the color to alpha in Lc, but am not able to put my finger on it at the moment.

*Edit - Ah, this is where I saw it.
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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by jacque » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:30 pm

You can choose the paint bucket tool and right click on the white background. That will turn it transparent. If you accidentally miss, undo works.
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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by bogs » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:05 pm

Oh SNAP! <adding new trick to bag> thank you, Jacque Image Image Image
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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by mluka » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:43 pm

Hi guys (and gal!).

I must be missing something very basic, here.

When I right-click (with the PaintBucket tool selected) on the background of an image object, sure enough, the background turns transparent. Yeah!

However, when I do this on a button (which is an icon, right?), I get a contextual menu...

What am I missing???

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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by bogs » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:00 pm

A button is not an icon, a button can use an image as an icon. Try this, put the icon on a card in the stack your working with (say , card "uiIcons").

Right click as Jacque pointed out on the image on the card.
Then put that images id into the button icon you want it to be for.

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Re: Old fashioned hypercard navigation arrows

Post by bogs » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:49 pm

I had come across an open source icon set that was kind of unique in that it has icons from many different open source areas.
Selection_001.png
Open icon library types...
I turned the 'Actions' category into a rev compatible icon library, and find it rather useful myself. As you can see, in this category alone, there are some 1240+ images :shock:
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'Atsa lotto images!
The license and read me texts are included in the .zip file.
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