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one window to rule them all

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:13 pm
by lordmax
Hi

I'm new to livecode but I'm working well and I like it.

Just one question.

After some minutes of working my desktop is full of livecode's windows everywhere and I feel totally out of control

There's a way to have a single window to work on like any other professional IDE ?

I've searched here in the forum but found nothing

Thanks

Re: one window to rule them all

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:48 pm
by BvG
luckily livecode is not a professional ide, and therefore does not need to restrict itself to a single window. ;-)

In fact it's so decidedly hobbyist that, If you really really want it, there's a way to write your own IDE, because the whole ide is made with livecode!

Re: one window to rule them all

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:08 pm
by dunbarx
Hi.

Do you mean that the message box, property inspector, toolbar, etc. are in view? These are all controlled by the "View/Palettes" menuItem, if you want. I find these essential to be open at all times.

But if you mean other stack windows, or utilities such as the application browser or menu builder (which in themselves are all stacks) then these were opened by you explicitly.

As Bjoernke indicated, this is all good news. You can always control your environment any way you want to. Consider making a small palette that hides any or all of these other gadgets, and can sit in the corner somewhere until you need to access it. This would be a terrific project for a new user, as it can be embellished endlessly, and you will not get any other work done.

Craig Newman

Re: one window to rule them all

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:28 pm
by dave_probertGA6e24
There are a couple of ways of reducing the clutter a little.

I find that having the icons for the top main toolbar is not really necessary - so you can turn them Off under the "View" menu "Toolbar Icons".
Another way to focus the clutter is to turn On the backdrop - again in the "View" menu.

After a while of using LC you will probably create your own personalised toolbar that will do your favourite things in just the right way ;) Or else you might use someone else's IDE enhancement tool.

GLX is quite good, but doesn't reduce the window count though.

Glass editor is Ok, though it does require you to jump through some hoops to be able to use it (the designer lays down a few 'rules' !)

I'm sure there are also other tools to make the workspace more efficient, though I find the best option is to have multiple monitors :)

Cheers,
Dave

Re: one window to rule them all

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:58 pm
by FourthWorld
lordmax wrote:There's a way to have a single window to work on like any other professional IDE ?
The others here have been helpful in offering solutions, and I'm working on a plugin for the IDE which will also reduce screen clutter, but for now let me provide some background that may help you appreciate why LiveCode is such an unusual beast:

The difference here is that LiveCode is truly live code, so the window you're working in is actually the window you're building, and you both build and run in the same environment. As such, the tools in LC need to be separate windows.

When you work in most single-window IDEs you're not working on your actual live windows, but merely simulated proxies of them, which is okay in those environments since they don't actually execute any code in them, but require you to first compile the app and run it in a completely separate environment.

LiveCode is definitely a very different way of working, from its core to its UI. But I hope as you spend more time with it you'll set up your environment to be as efficient as you're looking for, and I suspect if you do you'll eventually find LiveCode to be among the most productive tools you've ever used.

Re: one window to rule them all

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:35 pm
by Mag
lordmax wrote:Hi
There's a way to have a single window to work on like any other professional IDE ?
At this time I don't think it's possible, anyway, in this page http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/175 ... f-livecode you can see a prototype of what could appear one of the future versions of the LiveCode's IDE (I do not know with certainty, that's just my speculation).


BTW one of the most beautiful things of the LiveCode IDE is the new Project Browser, I really love it. If you learn to use all its features, your experience with the IDE improves a lot.

Re: one window to rule them all

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 1:03 pm
by andrewferguson
Mag wrote:It this time I don't think it's possible, anyway, in this page http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/175 ... f-livecode you can see a prototype of what could appear one of the future versions of the LiveCode's IDE (I do not know with certainty, that's just my speculation).
A new IDE for LiveCode was part of the kickstarter for LiveCode Next Generation. This means that it should be ready with the release of LiveCode Next Generation in the fall.
Andrew

Re: one window to rule them all

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 6:03 am
by sumpm1
andrewferguson wrote:A new IDE for LiveCode was part of the kickstarter for LiveCode Next Generation. This means that it should be ready with the release of LiveCode Next Generation in the fall.
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/175 ... f-livecode

Yes, this is one of their Kickstarter goals, they even have drawn a mockup of what the new IDE will look like. So RunRev wants what you want =)

Re: one window to rule them all

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:08 am
by lordmax
Hi

This is really a great new.

Thanks.