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The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:51 pm
by kaveh1000
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:27 pm
by bogs
That was pure awesome kaveh, thank you for making my day
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:44 pm
by kaveh1000
Always great to listen to Bill. Looks like I gave the wrong link by the way. The story about the Acid trip is around minute 22 here:
https://twit.tv/shows/triangulation/epi ... tart=false
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:59 pm
by bogs
Nope, link you put got me right to it
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:12 am
by ClipArtGuy
Thanks for this. Posted the day after
Bicycle Day too....
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:28 am
by capellan
Hi All,
I suspect that previously we have discussed at length this same topic on the mail list
or this forum. In short, although Bill Atkinson attributes HyperCard to an acid trip,
the fact is that Apple have to pay royalties to Paul Heckel, the author of ZoomRacks:
https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classe ... nking.html
https://www.atarimagazines.com/startv2n3/hypercard.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoomracks
http://www.drdobbs.com/the-real-deal/184410352
https://apple.slashdot.org/story/01/03/ ... r-mac-os-x
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:53 am
by bogs
Ah Al, thank you for the memory (2nd link, zoomracks). I still have one of those Atari machines
but no zoomracks on it
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:46 pm
by capellan
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:51 pm
by jacque
The royalty payments have long since expired.
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:58 pm
by bogs
Heh, good one
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:08 pm
by richmond62
although Bill Atkinson attributes HyperCard to an acid trip
That is just a bit of "colour", or, possibly in Bill Atkinson's case "color."
I have attributed great ideas I've had to dreams, divine revelation or
lying drunk in the bath: all far more interesting than just some idea
I had while I was staring mindlessly out of the window on the bus.
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:15 pm
by capellan
Bogs, Could you make a Zoomracks clone using LiveCode?
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:32 pm
by richmond62
Here's a fairly good description of Zoomrack's functionality:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoomracks
and these let you see what the thing looked like:
http://www.page6.org/archive/issue_23/page_20.htm
http://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari ... 32046.html
and download the software: mind you, you'll be a bit stuck unless you can shoehorn it into
an emulator.
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:40 pm
by bogs
capellan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:15 pm
Bogs, Could you make a Zoomracks clone using LiveCode?
Heh, well, for a while I was making this...
- Home screen...
- Stack kit...
- Well, you know....
From what I read in the descriptions of it, it sounds pretty limited though. I'd be far more fascinated making an Mc clone on
Squeak, whose vm's apparently run nearly anywhere I'd be working (but not mobile
).
Re: The acid trip that inspired Bill Atkinson to create HyperCard
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:57 pm
by richmond62
for a while I was making this
I think I'll pop out and design something called a wheel.
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While making clones of software items from the past may be quite instructive as a
learning process I'm sure that is about as far as these sort of things go.