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Unicode inconsistency

Post by richmond62 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:26 am

This is being posted in the "Off Topic" area because these forums do NOT supply a section for text and language representation.

LiveCode 8.1.8, Mac OS 10.7.5

Doing this:

put numToCodePoint(0xA8FD)
displays a Jain Om in the Message box:
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But doing this:

put numToCodePoint(0xA8FD) into fld "gg"
does this:
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Which is NBG.

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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by richmond62 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:42 am

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The Mac OS 10.7.5 Calculator manages to display the Jain OM as well, so
anyone who wants to try the "Mac OS Lion cannot cope with parts of Unicode"
shouldn't bother.
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Oh, look! Here's a Jain who's taken a vow NOT to make funny remarks about Unicode.
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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by bogs » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:14 pm

Dunno, all that puts into my message box is a small square :mrgreen:
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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by richmond62 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:39 pm

"bogs": is that Windows?

Do you have at least one Unicode compliant font that displays the Devanagari extended glyph set?

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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by bogs » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:59 pm

Windows? BITE YOUR TONGUE! :evil:

j/k, 'nix LMDE. hmmm, Devanagari eh? I'll have to go look it up...checking...checking...

Well, apparently I have some form of it, the only two I saw in the repositories are both installed already...
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but probably not an extended set.
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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by richmond62 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:02 pm

Had some lunch . . .

and tried this:

put numToCodePoint(43261) into fld "gg"

And, before you ask: 43261 is the decimal way of expressing hex A8FD

and that worked!

So, obviously LiveCode is having a problem with Hexadecimal.

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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by richmond62 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:04 pm

"nakula", "sahadeva": Hmpf: I'd be a bit careful about using fonts named after the Pandavas.

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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by bogs » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:16 pm

richmond62 wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:04 pm
Hmpf: I'd be a bit careful about using fonts named after the Pandavas.
I'd be more than a bit careful about using this stuff, so careful in fact that I have never used it. I don't generally type in languages I don't understand at least a little about, so for me that excludes all of these :P
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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by richmond62 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:22 pm

The Pandavas went in for Polyandry: the 5 brothers shared a wife between them . . .

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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by bogs » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:49 pm

Now that I've heard something similar about, although I forget the country, when a girl 'marries' she marries into the family. At the first birth, all of the brothers get together and decide who the 'father' is. after that, and even beyond his death, he is still the 'father' to any children born.
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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by richmond62 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:46 pm

I'm not sure about that, but Tibetan Buddhists go in for polyandry.

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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by bogs » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:49 pm

Will look for it later for completeness, book the article is in is upstairs.
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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by richmond62 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:51 pm

HOWEVER, there is an obvious problem with LiveCode insofar as some Unicode addresses can be "pulled" using Hexadecimal, while some can only be "pulled" using Decimal.

I'm going out for a walk to the vegetable and fruit market, and will think of a reasonably sensible way to frame a bug report.
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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by richmond62 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:58 pm

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Bug report 21055

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Re: Unicode inconsistency

Post by richmond62 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:27 pm

Actually, The Unicode inconsistency goes further in LiveCode, as for instance:
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Both of these (regardless of whether one uses Decimal or Hex) show up properly in the Message Box, but show up as silly squares in fields.

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