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Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:22 pm
by thatkeith
I'm hoping it's something odd to do with my installation but I have a nagging fear it isn't...

When I look through the LiveCode Dictionary from within LiveCode I keep coming across glitches. The latest is a show-stopping loss of key bits of info from the Find page. Fortunately it's all there in the online version at docs.runrev.com/Command/find - but I only found out about that resource through a chance result in a Google search!

Trimmed-down grab of what's in my local Dictionary for Find:
Screen Shot 2014-03-03 at 16.18.27.png
Grabbed from my installed LiveCode Dictionary
Screen Shot 2014-03-03 at 16.18.27.png (14.4 KiB) Viewed 3715 times
And trimmed-down copy of the same thing from the online version:
Screen Shot 2014-03-03 at 16.18.44.png
Grabbed from the online version of the LiveCode Dictionary
Screen Shot 2014-03-03 at 16.18.44.png (22.12 KiB) Viewed 3715 times
If this is just a local problem at my end, what's the best way for me to address it?
If it's a more widespread problem, can I do anything to help?

Keith

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:01 pm
by richmond62
Um.

What Operating system are you running?

What version of Livecode are you running?

If you can answer those questions life might get a bit easier.

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:05 pm
by thatkeith
Ah, yes. :oops: Sorry!

Mac OS X 10.9.1
LiveCode 6.5.2 build 3014
It's exactly the same in the Commercial and Community editions.

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:27 pm
by FourthWorld
Confirmed. You might consider filing a bug report against that. Most documentation bugs get resolved very quickly.

http://quality.runrev.com/

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:31 pm
by richmond62
I'm a bit of a lazy slob; so, as I work on Linux I couldn't be bothered to fire up VMware with Mavericks.

Anyway; I cracked open 3 versions of Livecode on Linux and this is what I got;
find.png
Obviously somebody in "quality control" had a headache that day. My advice is to go back to 6.5 which is a stable release,
or forward to 6.6 which is an interim version before the much vaunted version 7.
LC_gadfly.png

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:16 pm
by thatkeith
:) Thanks, sounds sensible!
@Richard, I'll go do that.

Keith

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:44 pm
by richmond62
@"Kevin" ; who's "Richard" ?

Glad that that problem got sorted out, Richmond.

And the lesson for today is;

"If something that has a number in the third slot (such as 6.5.2) is wonky,
go for a version that has a zero there."

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:20 pm
by thatkeith
Not a typo, just a nod to Richard Gaskin (@FourthWorld would have been a better choice), someone I knew from a mailing list a long, long time ago. :)

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:23 pm
by richmond62
Richard Gaskin is one of the good guys round here.

I am more ambivalent ;)

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:47 pm
by thatkeith
Duly noted! 8) And I'll make sure to report all the documentation glitches I see to quality.runrev.com.

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:09 pm
by richmond62
By now; after all this batting back and forth between Thee and Me, and the fact that version 6.5.2 is "past its sell by date" I certainly wouldn't bother reporting that one.

It is good to always hang onto earlier versions of Livecode rather than delete each version as you install a new one.

I have been very glad I have held on to old versions as I have just managed to get version 1.1.1 (!!!!!!!) running on Linux PPC; which,
until it is possible to build a Linux PPC version of 6.x.x or 7 is all that is available to Linux PPC users.

Similarly, I am running an early version on a G3 iMac running Mac OS 9 that is very useful for scavenging code from old Hypercard projects.

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:00 am
by thatkeith
Sell-by date? In current release terms version the GM1 build of 6.5.2 is fresh, no? :?: :? According to the bug reporter form v6.6 is at DP1 stage. But I will definitely take your advice to drop back to v6.5, which is still installed. (In fact I see 5.5.3 still installed too! Maybe it is time for a *bit* of a spring clean...)

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:48 am
by richmond62
I mean 'past its sell by date' in that it has been displaced by the 6.6 build.

All these builds (at least until a 6.6 'stable') are best avoided for production purposes: stick to 6.5.

There is no point in filing bug reports for 6.5.2; more to the point, if you have the time, to find bugs in 6.6.

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:28 am
by MikeinHawaii
I always found the included dictionary buggy also. I bought the paperback copy from the Rev store and it is really a helpful book to leave at my desk.

Re: Problems in the Dictionary

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:12 pm
by richmond62
The only problem about the paperback copy is that it will very soon, come version 7, be quite considerably out of date.

I do hope, come version 7, the dictionary will be rather more up-to-date as well.