dead in the water with ios 8

Neurox66 · Post by **Neurox66** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:36 am

Any news about LiveCode 6.6.4 ?
I've eighteen (18) apps to submit for resolve bugs (PushNotifications, MobilePick e orientation) for iOS8!

Paolo

dave.kilroy · Post by **dave.kilroy** » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:31 am

Hi Paolo

Still too early in the morning for news I think (apart from anything else RunRev will have to run their testing suite over 6.6.4 as well as other pre-build processes) - I'm not expecting anything until this afternoon at the earliest...

Kind regards

Dave

michel_bujardet · Post by **michel_bujardet** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:09 pm

dave.kilroy wrote:Mitch - I believe RunRev are working to put out a LiveCode 6.6.4 on Monday or soon after, and that this version - rather than the current 6.7 or 7.0 - will be the one that will allow building against iOS8 SDK and Xcode 6.0.1, and more importantly allow apps to be resubmitted to the AppStore again.

Thank you, Dave.

Keeping fingers crossed...

Neurox66 · Post by **Neurox66** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:22 am

iOS 8 was released September 17, 2014, already three days after the first reports of problems with LC.
It's been fifteen days and we heard continuous promises of immediate release.
Today I received the first letter from an lawyer of my client who wants to be compensated! What do I say? Should speak with RunRev and Apple?
I'm really frustrated and disappointed

Paolo

dave.kilroy · Post by **dave.kilroy** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:48 pm

Paolo

I don't know your situation but I would be absolutely most definitely be contacting RunRev!

FourthWorld · Post by **FourthWorld** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:41 pm

I can appreciate the frustration, Paolo, but a lot of developers (and many end-users) have been having all sorts of issues with iOS 8. The RunRev team is aware of the issue and working to resolve it. I don't have a specific release date, but my understanding is it's "ASAP".

Neurox66 · Post by **Neurox66** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:39 pm

dave.kilroy wrote:I don't know your situation but I would be absolutely most definitely be contacting RunRev!

Yes I've talked with RunRev

Miss Heather was very kind and said that it will take a couple of days.

Paolo

FourthWorld · Post by **FourthWorld** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:06 pm

Turns out the first test build of the fix was just released - details here:
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-l ... 06581.html

Neurox66 · Post by **Neurox66** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:19 pm

FourthWorld wrote:I can appreciate the frustration, Paolo, but a lot of developers (and many end-users) have been having all sorts of issues with iOS 8. The RunRev team is aware of the issue and working to resolve it. I don't have a specific release date, but my understanding is it's "ASAP".

Dear Richard,
I don't want to be controversial. I don't want start a flame!
My knowledge of English doesn't allow me to answer as I would like

But this is not a game

This is my work (job) and I'm using LC Commercial. I pay to use it.

My clients want that my softwares are bugs free.
For any bugs they blame me! Even for push notifications don't work on iOS8, even for DataPick .
When there are bugs want them to be corrected as soon as possible.
Similarly I expect this from RunRev.

Regards,
Paolo

FourthWorld · Post by **FourthWorld** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:57 pm

Neurox66 wrote:Dear Richard,
I don't want to be controversial. I don't want start a flame!
My knowledge of English doesn't allow me to answer as I would like
But this is not a game
This is my work (job) and I'm using LC Commercial. I pay to use it.

Quite sincerely, I appreciate your candor. We're all in the same boat, or at least the many here who rely on LiveCode to deliver applications professionally. So never feel shy about expressing your concerns.

My clients want that my softwares are bugs free.
For any bugs they blame me! Even for push notifications don't work on iOS8, even for DataPick .
When there are bugs want them to be corrected as soon as possible.
Similarly I expect this from RunRev.

Like the rest of us, the folks at RunRev would very much like to be the first development team that could deliver three quarters of a million lines of code entirely bug-free.

But unfortunately, 50 years of ACM literature suggests this is rare (I think the actual number of teams who have achieved this is zero). Bugs happen, and at RunRev they maintain a sizable staff working on them every day, prioritizing issues so that ones like the issues we're seeing with iOS 8 get immediate attention.

More relevant here is that RunRev is not alone in this challenge - many of the issues with iOS 8 are from the one of the most experienced and well-funded engineering teams on the planet, the good folks at Apple:

Apple's iOS 8 Is Brimming With Bugs
http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-bu ... ers-2014-9

iOS 8 problems not so magical: Slow, Laggy, Bloaty, Crashy, Buggy, Drainy and Doc
http://www.computerworld.com/article/26 ... tbwcw.html

iOS 8 bugs we’ve found till now
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2014/09/ios-8-bugs.html

iOS 8.0.2: old problems remain, new bugs added
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/security/39 ... bugs-added

More:
https://www.google.com/search?q=iOS+8+issues

Yet despite the many challenges in dealing with a buggy iOS 8 release, the RunRev team has been working hard on fixes and workarounds for the issues Apple introduced, and delivered their first build for you to test this morning - it seems our posts crossed, as I'd posted the link about this new release just before your post:
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.ph ... 15#p111317

Simon · Post by **Simon** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:58 pm

In contracts with clients ALWAYS specify the OS version number that your app will work on, not just the OS.
Again not to start a flame... But this is common practice.

Simon

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:13 pm

Hi friends,

LC 6.6.4 RC1 has just been released: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

Best

Klaus

jvouillon · Post by **jvouillon** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:42 pm

Hi Guys,

Seems that the iPhone simulator is working but not the iPad one...
When I select iPad as the test target, the iOS simulator just turn black...

Have you noticed the same thing?

Cheers,

DRJ-UK · Post by **DRJ-UK** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:46 pm

Colleagues

Has anyone else noticed that testing an iPhone App on the simulator for iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+ has a screen scaling issue.

Seems like LC 6.6.4 RC1 is attempting to apply its own scaling process.

Dave

quailcreek · Post by **quailcreek** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:18 pm

So is this still the case? If we want to develop for iOS we can't use LC 7.

LiveCode 6.6.4 will be the one that will allow building against iOS8 SDK and Xcode 6.0.1

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