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Re: Goodbye Filemaker. I will (sort of) miss you

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:20 pm
by shawnblc
SparkOut wrote: I do still think that an intuitive database management GUI that semi-automagically sets the behaviour of controls would be the single most likely to convert new users onto a lifetime of LiveCode enthusiasm.

I couldn't agree more.

Re: Goodbye Filemaker. I will (sort of) miss you

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:47 pm
by FourthWorld
shawnblc wrote:
SparkOut wrote: I do still think that an intuitive database management GUI that semi-automagically sets the behaviour of controls would be the single most likely to convert new users onto a lifetime of LiveCode enthusiasm.
I couldn't agree more.
You might want to checkout revdbquerysetup.rev in <lc path>/Toolset/Unsupported/.

The challenge with such a UI is that it's well suited only for RDBMSes, which would satisfy a good many uses cases but not others.

For example, in many of my apps I use a traditional table structure for most list views, but records themselves are handled as arrays, for which it can be difficult to craft a one-size-fits-all tool for binding.

Others store data in cards, others in all manner of different types of text and binary files.

But if support for relational DBs only is desired, this may well be something the community could accomplish using that component as a starting point, perhaps even faster than RunRev could do it after they get their Widgets subsystem in place.

Re: Goodbye Filemaker. I will (sort of) miss you

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:27 am
by bbacle
I had read on another forum that LiveCode was free, but when I went to your website, you want to charge people.
Is LiveCode free or not?
Doesn't look like it is.

Re: Goodbye Filemaker. I will (sort of) miss you

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:05 am
by FourthWorld
bbacle wrote:I had read on another forum that LiveCode was free, but when I went to your website, you want to charge people.
Is LiveCode free or not?
Doesn't look like it is.
Try the link at the bottom of nearly every page for the open source Community Edition, which point to:
https://livecode.org/

Re: Goodbye Filemaker. I will (sort of) miss you

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:06 am
by ghettocottage
bbacle wrote:I had read on another forum that LiveCode was free, but when I went to your website, you want to charge people.
Is LiveCode free or not?
Doesn't look like it is.
https://livecode.org/

There is a community version and a paid version. The community version is free/

Re: Goodbye Filemaker. I will (sort of) miss you

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:34 am
by capellan
But LC Community Edition does not encrypt (protect) your scripts
from anyone that open your app with an Hex Editor...

Could you create a secure application if all your scripts are open
for everyone to see them? :shock:

Re: Goodbye Filemaker. I will (sort of) miss you

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:54 pm
by dennyhayes
I am still with FM, but I have a feeling many more will drop FM, since they are changing their policy and pulling all design in house.

Denny

Re: Goodbye Filemaker. I will (sort of) miss you

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:57 am
by FourthWorld
That's an interesting development, Denny. Do you have a link where I can learn more about that?

Re: Goodbye Filemaker. I will (sort of) miss you

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:23 pm
by ghettocottage
..So three years later:

I have to say I have rarely miss Filemaker. Although Filemaker does have any easy interface to work with, and some of the advanced database designing tools were quite nice, but the high cost of maintenance and software that only runs on Mac or Windows were cost-prohibitive for the smaller businesses I do projects for and inconvenient for me to work with.

With Livecode Community Server, OpenVPN, Ubuntu Server, and MariaDB I can set up a secure database server that costs $5.00/month.

I use MySQL Workbench for Database Modeling and LiveCode for building the interfaces ( both run on my Linux computer ).

There was a fairly steep learning curve, but I enjoyed it and have a fairly good grasp on some networking and Linux concepts that used to sound Greek to me but now I cannot live without.

Re: Goodbye Filemaker. I will (sort of) miss you

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:18 pm
by oleung
Thank you for sharing. I am new to LiveCode here with some VBA background in MS Access and found it very hard to get into FileMaker some years ago but like it a lot sometime after. I would like to explore if LiveCode is a good language platform I can spend more of my time on it.

Great of seeing more LiveCode developers who can share their learning experience here.