ghettocottage wrote:If companies are going to sell Linux software, and charge the same rates as Windows and Mac versions, then they should apply the same amount of effort as other platforms. Rather than telling clients that Linux is just not a wide enough user-base to justify the work, why not instead charge a lower rate, or provide free upgrades, or give additional support in an effort to expand the user-base? Or, just stop selling Linux software instead?
Well, that's an option, but I hope they don't pursue that.
I should note that I don't work for RunRev, so anything I say is just my own opinion. Like you, I'd like to see even more work on the Linux engine, but I'm also able to do pretty much anything I need to switching my work between Mac and Ubuntu all day, so I haven't felt much lacking there. Down the road I may use RevBrowser and would like to see a Linux version of that, and with any luck they'll have that in place before I need it.
With the memory issue which prompted this thread, I haven't seen it myself so I've had generally good experiences with RunRev's Linux engine, and FWIW I've found RunRev to be responsive to bug reports submitted with a reproducible recipe. There are outstanding bugs for all supported platforms, not just Linux, as there are with the OS vendors for the OSes themselves.
Have you seen this memory issue on your system? If so, it may be helpful to add your system config to the RQCC report, or submit it to
support@runrev.com with the RCQQ report number so a rep there can post it for you.
It can be a little frustrating to pay and then be told that your version is not supported, or is too difficult to test properly.
Which RunRev staffer told you that? Like every other platform they're selling LiveCode for, the Linux engine is supported.
Well, linux users traditionally like to help out with testing, support and bug reporting, and even more so when a company propagates that sort of community.
An excellent point, which is why I find so many of the RQCC reports puzzlingly vague and lacking important details.
While I don't work for RunRev, I have worked as a contractor for them many years ago, and stay in touch with them from time to time. I've been advocating ways we can make better use of the can-do spirit in the Linux community to help improve the product experience. Hopefully we'll see some of that become evident in the not-too-distant future.
I am not feeling a strong Linux community here.
Heck, I'm not feeling a strong Linux community
anywhere on the planet outside of the Linux conferences and user groups I attend.
OEMs largely refuse to ship with anything but Windows, and it would never occur to most "normal" people to replace the OS that came with their computer with something they downloaded off the Internet. Whether we like it or not, those of us who choose Linux are a rare breed.
Add to that the pundits proclaiming the so-called "post-PC era" (in which, ironically, 75% of sales of computing devices remain PCs - see
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/jacks-blog ... -10025689/ ), and the gold rush mentality of the gonna-be-the-next-Angry-Birds mobile craze, and it's not surprising that like so many other companies RunRev is devoting a lot of its engineering resources to the other Linux, Android.
I dig Linux, but with a 3%-and-not-growing desktop share I have no illusions about its importance in the consumer world at large, at least until OEMs wake up and smell the differentiation.
In the meantime, RunRev continues to put disproportionate resources into the Linux engine, and it gets better with each build.
Even in this thread, a majority of respondents are either minimally or completely unaffected by the seeming memory leak, and it hasn't yet been determined that this isn't just another Xorg issue.
While I share your enthusiasm for mo' Linux love, I don't think the current situation is all that bad.
Now here's a challenge to the can-do Linux community:
Ubuntu has the Software Center, but to get apps there they need to be delivered to a PPA as .deb packages.
Who has the time and interest to make a drag-and-drop tool to turn a folder containing the standalone, the .desktop file, the icon, and any other parts into a valid .deb package?
If we can demonstrate our belief in the value of the Ubuntu market with such a tool, it'll be very useful to others as well, and all of us will be better off.
I've been wanting to build such a thing for some time, but my client projects have expanded in scope so it's been moved to a very back burner. If anyone here wants to take this up I'd be happy to help however I can.