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by FourthWorld
Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:05 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: A quick compliment for the livecode team
Replies: 8
Views: 93

Re: A quick compliment for the livecode team

Vendor lock-in is desirable to shareholders, but not to customers, particularly enterprise. AppleTalk was dropped in favor of TCP long ago. AOL, CompuServe, GENIE, eWorld...all gave way to the open web. Even today's social media is diversifying, with the closest thing to an emerging common ground be...
by FourthWorld
Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:10 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: A quick compliment for the livecode team
Replies: 8
Views: 93

Re: A quick compliment for the livecode team

The product name? That was the pattern at the time. Apple bundled useful tools, but in those days intentionally stopped short of making truly feature-rich apps, leaving the market open for third parties. It was a new platform and Apple made their money on hardware, so they worked hard to bring in th...
by FourthWorld
Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:17 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: A quick compliment for the livecode team
Replies: 8
Views: 93

Re: A quick compliment for the livecode team

For the sake of completeness, a tip of the hat across the fullness of time: gratitude for LC carrying the xTalk torch into the 21st century, and to Bill Appleton's World Builder, the first scriptable multimedia authoring tool for Mac, released in 1986. Appleton later went on to make Course Builder, ...
by FourthWorld
Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:04 pm
Forum: Getting Started with LiveCode - Experienced Developers
Topic: Hide tooltip instantly?
Replies: 15
Views: 329

Re: Hide tooltip instantly?

@ stam : yes, I had considered this kind of solution but I feared a long execution time knowing that I have 96 controls and access to control properties is rather slow. You might be surprised. I've done a LOT of performance and stress testing of the engine over my decades of relying on it, and I'd ...
by FourthWorld
Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:56 pm
Forum: Getting Started with LiveCode - Experienced Developers
Topic: Hide tooltip instantly?
Replies: 15
Views: 329

Re: Hide tooltip instantly?

I do think modernising the forum to a new forum platform like Discourse and importing all the existing phpBB posts might go a long way to encouraging active participation, but the reality is that the number of active participants is low, hence the apparent “well established pattern”… Yep. I like Di...
by FourthWorld
Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:50 pm
Forum: Talking LiveCode
Topic: An event trigger when data is added to a field
Replies: 15
Views: 437

Re: An event trigger when data is added to a field

A global property to govern scope would be one way to handle it, but in addition to doubling the implementation/testing/documentation commitment it may still have side effects with any third-party code that doesn't take that into account. Stam's accessor handler gets the job done well, and reminds u...
by FourthWorld
Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:04 pm
Forum: Talking LiveCode
Topic: An event trigger when data is added to a field
Replies: 15
Views: 437

Re: An event trigger when data is added to a field

Mark Waddingham is a very thoughtful API designer. When he chose to implement the textChanged message many years ago, I'd venture to guess that his decision to make it a catch-all for system events while leaving scripted changes up to the scripter was not mere slouch. Moreover , at this point, with ...
by FourthWorld
Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:41 pm
Forum: Talking LiveCode
Topic: An event trigger when data is added to a field
Replies: 15
Views: 437

Re: An event trigger when data is added to a field

Text manipulated by user actions can take many forms, including typing, cutting, pasting, drag-n-drop, etc. Having the text changed message to handle all of them is a godsend. In contrast, the one thing we know about text being manipulated by script is that the scripter is in control of how that hap...
by FourthWorld
Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:53 am
Forum: Talking LiveCode
Topic: Monitor DPI for Windows and Mac?
Replies: 12
Views: 392

Re: Monitor DPI for Windows and Mac?

According to https://superuser.com/questions/1085734/how-do-i-know-the-dpi-of-my-laptop-screen: PPI = sqrt((pixels_horizontal^2 + pixels_vertical^2) / inches_diagonal) i guess you need a way to get the diagonal dimensions of the screen and know the pixel doubling. Not sure if that helps? The arithm...
by FourthWorld
Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:12 am
Forum: Talking LiveCode
Topic: Monitor DPI for Windows and Mac?
Replies: 12
Views: 392

Re: Monitor DPI for Windows and Mac?

Thanks, but those don't return DPI, just multipliers for pixel doubling on high-res displays.
by FourthWorld
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:20 pm
Forum: Talking LiveCode
Topic: Monitor DPI for Windows and Mac?
Replies: 12
Views: 392

Monitor DPI for Windows and Mac?

LC has a way to obtain DPI (pixel density) on mobile, but I don't believe there's anything in the engine to get that info for desktop platforms. I have a case where on-screen display needs to be of a specific real-world size in inches. I can dig up the AppleScript/Powershell combos needed for stuff ...
by FourthWorld
Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:37 pm
Forum: Getting Started with LiveCode - Complete Beginners
Topic: Where are the newbies?
Replies: 139
Views: 972697

Re: Where are the newbies?

Native deployment is LiveCode's strength, and its breadth in that space leaves most competition in the dust. It has a few weaknesses to address, esp with mobile (scrolling fields, clipboard, etc), but still a strong competitor for mobile. Moreover, it's almost alone in the desktop space, where user...
by FourthWorld
Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:33 pm
Forum: Getting Started with LiveCode - Complete Beginners
Topic: Where are the newbies?
Replies: 139
Views: 972697

Re: Where are the newbies?

Forums are bottom-of-the-funnel. To see drivers look at the top of the funnel. No doubt, but as a lambda user we only have access to the bottom of the funnel. Furthermore, if I continue your metaphor, what comes out of the funnel is, in theory, exactly what goes in. The size of the spout only deter...
by FourthWorld
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:07 am
Forum: Getting Started with LiveCode - Complete Beginners
Topic: Where are the newbies?
Replies: 139
Views: 972697

Re: Where are the newbies?

NoN' wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:25 am
I'm certainly not going to extrapolate Livecode's situation from these few figures...
Good call. The charts reinforce what we experienced on the ground: the decline plateaued, until FOSS was dropped.

Forums are bottom-of-the-funnel. To see drivers look at the top of the funnel.
by FourthWorld
Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:11 pm
Forum: Getting Started with LiveCode - Complete Beginners
Topic: Where are the newbies?
Replies: 139
Views: 972697

Re: Where are the newbies?

I have recently been inundated by Facebook posts for XOJO showing up on my feed, which are professionally attractive and enticing. Great advertising that almost had be heading to their download area. When the last time this happened to me with LC? Well... never. You may have hit on a key element th...

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